CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_



Reported by Philip Almquist/Consultant

RREQ Minutes

Shortly before the St.  Louis meeting, the second Internet Draft version
of the Router Requirements specification was released.  Except for a few
open issues (described below), the technical content of the document is
fairly well set.  Extensive editorial work remains to be done.
On the first day of the meeting, the Chair conducted a brief
``Introduction to Router Requirements'' session for first-time attendees
and anyone else who was interested.  After that, the Working Group dove
into four half days of meetings.
Three of the four sessions were devoted to fine-tuning the draft.
Particular attention was paid to chapters 3 (Link Layer), 4 (Internet
Layer Protocols), 9 (Miscellaneous Application Layer Protocols), and 10
(Operations and Maintenance).  We also discussed what still needed to be
done to complete the draft.  Items identified included:


   o Chapter 8 (Network Management) still needs to be written.

   o Much of chapter 9 (Miscellaneous Application Protocols) still needs
     to be written.

   o Coverage of security-related topics needs to be extended.

   o There should be additional discussion sections providing
     implementation hints and explaining the rationale behind some of
     the requirements.

   o Several smaller sections need to be written or revised.

   o As mentioned above, extensive editorial work is still required.


Volunteers were solicited to do the necessary work.  The issue of
variable length subnet masks was also raised.  Since the IETF Working
Group on this topic is still not underway, we tentatively decided that
Router Requirements would have to partially skirt this issue, though we
will say more than the current draft does.

The remaining session was devoted to discussion of three important and
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  1. Route choice -- how a router chooses which route to use to use for
     a packet when the router has several routes (learned from different
     routing domains) to the packet's destination.

  2. Route leaking -- how a router which is in multiple routing domains
     decides whether a route learned in one routing domain ought to be
     advertised into other routing domains.

  3. Route filtering -- how a router decides whether to disbelieve
     certain routes from certain sources.


Each of these issues has two components:

  1. Constraints -- what must (or must not) be done to avoid undesirable
     phenomena such as routing loops and black holes?

  2. Controls -- what sorts of configuration options does a network
     manager need to be able to do to make routing work in moderately
     complex parts of the Internet?


The Working Group was not able to reach any consensus on these issues,
but will continue to try to address them in the time before the IETF
meeting in Atlanta in July.  However, several Working Group members also
participated in a productive Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) Working Group
session which addressed issues specific to route leaking between BGP and
OSPF.

Frank Solensky deserves considerable commendation for diligently noting
all of the changes to the draft which were agreed to during the course
of the meeting.

Attendees

Douglas Bagnall          bagnall_d@apollo.hp.com
Atul Bansal              bansal@netrix.nac.dec.com
Ballard Bare             bare@hprnd.rose.hp.com
William Barns            barns@gateway.mitre.org
Bob Beach                bob@ultra.com
Arthur Berggreen         art@acc.com
Helen Bowns              hbowns@bbn.com
David Bridgham           dab@asylum.sf.ca.us
Ronald Broersma          ron@nosc.mil
Christopher Bucci        bucci@pluto.dss.com
Jeffrey Burgan           jeff@nsipo.nasa.gov
Ross Callon              callon@bigfut.enet.dec.com
Graham Cobb              cobb@marvin.enet.dec.com

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Rob Coltun               rcoltun@trantor.umd.edu
Don Coolidge             coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com
Nabil Damouny
Kurt Dobbins             dobbins@ctron.com
Dino Farinacci           dino@3com.com
Jeffrey Fitzgerald       jjf@fibercom.com
Richard Fox              rfox@synoptics.com
Vince Fuller             vaf@Standford.EDU
Fred Gray                fred@homer.msfc.nasa.gov
Martin Gray              mg@spider.co.uk
Jeremy Greene            greene@coral.com
Martin Gross             gross@polaris.dca.mil
Patrick Heisinger        heisinger@mdcguy.mdc.com
Jeffrey Honig            jch@devvax.tn.cornell.edu
Kathleen Huber           khuber@bbn.com
Harold Jones             hjones@nac.enet.dec.com
Ajay Kachrani            kachrani@regent.enet.dec.com
Frank Kastenholz         kasten@asherah.clearpoint.com
Manu Kaycee              kaycee@trlian.enet.dec.com
Stev Knowles             stev@ftp.com
Alex Koifman             akoifman@bbn.com
Anthony Lauck            lauck@tl.enet.dec.com
Eliot Lear               lear@net.bio.net
Tony Li                  tli@cisco.com
Mike Little              little@ctt.bellcore.com
Joshua Littlefield       josh@cayman.com
Then Liu
Gary Malkin              gmalkin@ftp.com
Mike Marcinkevicz        mdm@calstate.edu
Glenn McGregor           ghm@merit.edu
Milo Medin               medin@nsipo.nasa.gov
Carol Melowitz           melowitz@mdcgwy.mdc.com
Jay Melvin               infopath@well.sf.ca.us
Linda Melvin             infopath@well.sf.ca.us
April Merrill
David Miller             dtm@ulana.mitre.org
Greg Minshall            minshall@wc.novell.com
John Moy                 jmoy@proteon.com
Gary Mussar              mussar@bnr.ca
David O'Leary            oleary@sura.net
Brad Parker              brad@cayman.com
Stephanie Price          price@cmc.com
Michael Reilly           reilly@pa.dec.com
Kary Robertson           kr@concord.com.kr
George Sanderson         sanderson@mdc.com
Mark Schaefer            schaefer@davidsys.com
Steven Sherry            shsherry@eng.xyplex.com
Stephen Shew             sdshew@bnr.ca
Frank Solensky           solensky@clearpoint.com
Evan Solley              solley@applelink.apple.com
Brad Solomon             bsolomon@hobbes.msfc.nasa.gov
Michael St.  Johns       stjohns@umd5.umd.edu
Martha Steenstrup        msteenst@bbn.com
Roxanne Streeter         streeter@nsipo.nasa.gov

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Glenn Trewitt            trewitt@pa.dec.com
Walter Wimer             walter.wimer@andrew.cmu.edu
Cathy Wittbrodt          cjw@nersc.gov
John Wobus               jmwobus@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Wing Fai Wong            wfwong@malta.sbi.com
Chin Yuan                cxyuan@pacbell.com



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