CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Peter Furniss/Consultant

Minutes of the Minimal OSI Upper-Layers Working Group (THINOSI)

This was our first meeting as a Working Group.  Most of the time was
spent reviewing the first draft of the bytestream cookbook and
especially the technical choices of what OSI upper-layers features
should be included.

Some guiding principles emerged:


   o Interworking with ``full'' OSI implementations was a key purpose of
     the thinosi approach and must be maintained, even at the cost of
     some complexity.

   o Inclusion or exclusion of features is determined by (and
     determines) the set of application protocols that can be supported.

   o It will be little trouble to add additional features (thus widening
     the application range) once the basic format and style is worked
     out - these could be alternatives in the same document or in
     separate ones.

   o If at all possible the set of supported application protocols
     should include the DAP and X.400 P7 protocol.  (These are not
     actually byte-stream in the sense we have now, but at least DAP
     should be possible with only a two octet change.  P7 to be
     investigated.  PRF)


A number of conclusions were reached (most of these are confirmations of
what is in the first draft). 

   o Expect to receive any of the various allowed encodings of lengths,
     etc.

   o Describe sending of one application abstract-syntax and transfer
     syntax name (in addition to the ACSE as & ts), but also describe
     how, as responder, to locate and reply when these are one of a
     number of offered abstract syntaxes and/or transfer syntaxes (how
     to send and use multiple as and ts is one of the extension
     possibilities).

   o Do not use the invocations ids or the responding AP-title,
     AE-qualifier (ignore happily on receipt).


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   o Do not use the userdata field on ACSE A-ASSOCIATE or A-RELEASE
     exchanges.

   o Do allow the user data on the ACSE user abort to be used by the
     application (typically to carry application- or
     implementation-specific error/explanation messages).

   o Use Session version 2 (with the Common Upper-Layer Requirements
     limits on userdata).

   o Include the correct procedure to follow when a release collision
     occurs (this is different for the association initiator and
     responder).

   o Identify more clearly where the cookbook is taking advantage of a
     CULR part 1 restriction.

   o Do not include re-use of transport (although this can improve
     efficiency, it is always *additional* to starting with new
     T-connections, and thus makes the implementation more complex.)

   o Do not shorten the explanatory text at the beginning or move it to
     another document (clarify it by all means).

   o Change the layout of the octet sequences to a more rigid
     tag-length-value column format, with the datatype of primitive
     values in a fourth column.  Indent to show the nesting if feasible.
     e.g.,

     30  80  {4                . list of transfer syntaxes
     06  02  5101    oid       . BER transfer syntax
     00  00  }4                . e-o-c for ts list



The Group was uncertain on whether the lengths of constructed elements
should all be indefinite, all definite, or follow a pattern of whatever
is convenient.  For interworking all possibilities must be understood on
receipt, but various performance payoffs are possible.  The views of the
mailing list will be sought.

There was also some discussion of related work in other circles.


   o A profile for ``minimal OSI functionality'' is being developed in
     the OIW and EWOS regional workshops (these are the OSI profiling
     bodies for North America and Europe).  This is intended to be part
     three of Common Upper-Layer Requirements.  The mOSI profile and
     thinosi work have a common origin.  At present, the upper-layer
     facilities supported in mOSI and in thinosi are not quite the same.
     It will be highly desirable for there to be one single selection of
     features for both.  Attempts will be made to align these - in

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     particular the new draft of the cookbook should be made available
     to the EWOS technical liaison group (TLG) in time for their next
     meeting in April.

   o Within X/Open, a new appendix for the XTI interface is being
     developed that defines the use of this interface for minimal OSI.


The Group will meet in Amsterdam.

Attendees

John Boatright           bryan_boatright@ksc.nasa.gov
Kevin Carosso            kvc@innosoft.com
George Chang             gkc@ctt.bellcore.com
Peter Furniss            p.furniss@ulcc.ac.uk
Sylvain Langlois         Sylvain.Langlois@exp.edf.fr
Mark Needleman           mhn@stubbs.ucop.edu
Geir Pedersen            Geir.Pedersen@usit.uio.no
Jim Romaguera            romaguera@cosine-mhs.switch.ch
Keith Sklower            sklower@cs.berkeley.edu
Klaus Truoel             truoel@gmd.de
William Warner           warner@ohio.gov
Les Wibberley            lhw24@cas.org
Charles Young            Charles.E.Young@att.com



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