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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 06 Oct 98       Volume 16 : Issue 183

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#449/05-Oct-98
      (C) QuickTime 3.0.2 -warning
      [A] Macintosh SE Fish Tank
      [A] Sunrise/sunset times
      [A] Sunrise/sunset times
      [Q] OT vs. MacTCP (was OT/PPP vs. MacPPP)
      Freehand mailinglist
      New Info on Mac Discovery Day
      PREFERENCES FOLDER IS LOADED WITH
      SuperBoomerang like shareware
      SuperBoomerang like shareware
      SuperBoomerang like shareware Info-Mac Digest V16 #182
      Update on Mac Discovery Day
      Y2K assessment software

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:00:00 -0700
From: TidBITS Editors <editors@tidbits.com>
Subject: [*] TidBITS#449/05-Oct-98

TidBITS#449/05-Oct-98

Remember those Programming for Poets courses in college? This week, our
Technical Editor Geoff Duncan waxes poetical about the capabilities of
Apple's low-level debugger MacsBug when placed in the hands of merely geeky
non-programmers. Also this week, we welcome two new sponsors - Maxum and
Dantz, announce Conflict Catcher 8.0.2 and a public beta of the hot Eudora
Pro 4.1, and relay news  of a free version of Nisus Writer you can
download.

Topics:
    MailBITS/05-Oct-98
    New TidBITS Sponsors: Maxum & Dantz
    MacsBug for the Merely Geeky, Part One

<http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-449.html>
<ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/pub/tidbits/issues/1998/TidBITS#449_05-Oct-98.etx>

[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-449.etx; 29K]

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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 15:34:32 +0000
From: abrody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: (C) QuickTime 3.0.2 -warning

Dear Digest readers,
Apple in its infinite wisdom has included in the installer of QuickTime
3.0.2, Internet Config.  However, it is not the latest version.  So if you
install using the standard procedure you might overwrite a newer version of
Internet Config on your machine.  The latest version is 2.0, QuickTime 3.0.2
installer only has version 1.4.   

If you have downloaded a newer version of Internet Config do a Custom
install from where it says "Standard" install in the installer.  That way
you can unselect Internet Config, and make sure your current Internet Config
settings are not overwitten.

I wonder if this will be a problem with MacOS 8.5.

Internet Config is also found in the latest installers of Netscape, Internet
Explorer, and several other popular programs.  It goes without saying, if
you want to keep your system stable, always keep backup copies of the
installer archives, just in case your current software is overwritten. 

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:29:45 +0100
From: Ian Goldby <Ian.Goldby@btinternet.com>
Subject: [A] Macintosh SE Fish Tank

>From: whitmanpc1@aol.com (WhitmanPC1)
>
>Has anyone seen or heard of instructions or a kit for turning a Macintosh SE
>into a genuine fish tank?

Isn't it amazing how some of those random bits of information you file away
years ago turn out occasionally to be useful?

http://www.ionet.net/~jlower/aquarium.html

Ian.

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 98 07:28:47 +0100
From: Richard Platt <richard.platt@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: [A] Sunrise/sunset times

>Does anyone know of a utility which will calculate sunrise and sunset times
>worldwide? 
Try WorldClock. This does much more than you need. I'm sure there are 
other examples. Calculation of the time of sunrise and sunset is 
relatively easy, and you could easily do it using (eg) Excel or 
Hypercard. The best source of information is probably "Practical 
Astronomy with Your Calculator" by Smith, Peter Duffett (Cambridge 
University Press  1981)

Richard Platt   Telephone: (44) 1892 890741  Fax: (44) 1892 890951
The Old Squash Court, Bayham Abbey, Lamberhurst, Kent, United Kingdom

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:24:53 -0700
From: Maurice Mike McNeil <mmcneil@bbn.com>
Subject: [A] Sunrise/sunset times

I use MacAstro 1.6 =9F, a shareware program. It does a whole lot more than
sunrise and sunset, but it does those very well. If it is no longer
available in the archives I will upload an unregistered version.

-----|-----
    0-0
    (_)+   =20

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:57:16 -0600
From: Ted Logan <tedlogan@busprod.com>
Subject: [Q] OT vs. MacTCP (was OT/PPP vs. MacPPP)

Karen Wheless:

> In my experience, the problem with OT/PPP isn't Open Transport itself, but
> the badly written modem scripts that rarely work the way they are supposed
> to.  When I upgraded to a USR x2 modem, I had the same problems, constant
> disconnections, low connect speeds, stalls and timeouts, even though I was
> using the newest modem script downloaded from USR.  I added some additional
> commands to the file, and, through a lot of trial and error, ended up with
> a workable modem script that gives me fast and stable connections with my
> system.  I don't know why the modem scripts provided by Apple and the modem
> manufacturers are so unworkable, but that may be the source of the
> problems.
>

I don't understand why anyone not operating a Mac as a server, which could
require a rather more complex initiation string, would ever use anything
for a USRx2 modem than AT&F1&D0.  Period, neither more nor less.  That's
what has always worked for me (including a G3 running OS 8.1) for the past
5 years up to their latest v.90 release.

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:19:44 +0100
From: Paolo Bartoli <pbartoli@iname.com>
Subject: Freehand mailinglist

Where do Freehand enthusiasts meet, beside the Macromedia web site? Is
there any mailinglist / news group?

**   Arch. Paolo Bartoli
**   pbartoli@iname.com
**
**   http://space.tin.it/arte/bpxba

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:09:39 -0800
From: KJ Aanestad <aanestad@wco.com>
Subject: New Info on Mac Discovery Day

Posted a message a week ago about:

"The North Coast Mac User Group, in the heart of Sonoma County Wine
Country, is hosting Mac Discovery Day Saturday, October 17, 1998 at Santa
Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA from 10AM-5PM, offering a multitude of
activities, business solutions, demonstrations and displays to the general
public and Macintosh users of all levels. Vendors including Apple,
Connectix, Drive Savers and so on, will be there. NCMUG will be featuring
the iMAC. This is your chance to check out the iMAC in person. For more
information, please go to <http://www.winebirds.com/MDD2.html> and find out
what everyone is smiling about. Admission is FREE." As this is a fund
raiser, we will be selling tickets for drawings throughout the day.

The NEWEST INFO is that Apple is going to be there to do a premiere demo of
OS 8.5 and show off the iMAC. A terrific opportunity for you and your
family and friends to check out the latest from Apple and the other
fabulous vendors.

Workshops happen every hour on the hour throughout the day such as:
* Quickbooks
* Apple OS 8.5
* Drive Savers - The Care and Maintenance of your Hard Drive
* Photoshop Tips and Tricks
* How to Build a Database for your Small Business
* New Users Q&A

North Coast Mac User Group is having LOTS of prizes in a drawing to be
given away  every half hour all day. The grand drawing will be Adobe's
Photoshop 5.0 and Adobe ImageReady 1.0, which will be awarded at the end of
the day. Throughout the day, we'll see other Adobe products such as
PageMill 2.0, Adobe Acrobat 3.0, Adobe Type Twister 1.0, Adobe Type On Call
4.1, Adobe PhotoDeluxe 2.0. A whole slew of other nifty software from other
vendors. The door prize is a portable CD player.

Hope you can make it.

KJ Aanestad

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:35:17 -0400
From: rob <rob.durnford@sympatico.ca>
Subject: PREFERENCES FOLDER IS LOADED WITH

quoting MARK H. BOWERSOX and possibly previous message abstract:

>BUT STILL NEED TO WORK MORE ON IT. THE PREFERENCES FOLDER IS LOADED WITH
>EMPTY FOLDER FROM ALL THE GAMES THAT THE KIDS PLAY AND ALL THE OTHERS.
>IS THERE A WAY THAT I CAN FORCE THE SYSTEM TO TRASH THESE OR PUT THEM
>SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN TRASH THEM WITH THE CLICK OF THE MOUSE?

You could simply label all your good (useful) preferece files with the 
label function.  After cleaning your pref files make them all essential 
or whatever.  Then sort by label.  You will have all additional 
preferences neatly arranged for you to drag actoss and trash.

     Learning is what is left after you have forgotten the rest!

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Date: 05 Oct 98 16:07:40 -0500
From: WJ Shack <wjshack@anl.gov>
Subject: SuperBoomerang like shareware

Try Default Folder (from any info mac site) or Action Files 1.1
(http://www.actionutilities.com/)

DF is cheaper, but not as powerful.  AF 1.1 does wonderful things with
open/save dialogs.

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 98 07:28:50 +0100
From: Richard Platt <richard.platt@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: SuperBoomerang like shareware


Try Default Folder. Not quite as good as Now Utilities, but creates fewer 
extension conflicts.
on 5/10/98 8:35 pm you wrote:
>Does anyone know of a shareware program that work like SuperBoomerang from
>Now Utilities?  Now Utilities does not work with System 8 and they are
>apparently not developing a new version for the Mac.  Thanks in advance.

Richard Platt   Telephone: (44) 1892 890741  Fax: (44) 1892 890951
The Old Squash Court, Bayham Abbey, Lamberhurst, Kent, United Kingdom

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:35:19 -0400
From: rob <rob.durnford@sympatico.ca>
Subject: SuperBoomerang like shareware Info-Mac Digest V16 #182

quoting Ron Etter :

>Subject: SuperBoomerang like shareware
>
>
>Does anyone know of a shareware program that work like SuperBoomerang from
>Now Utilities?  Now Utilities does not work with System 8 and they are
>apparently not developing a new version for the Mac.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Cheers,
>
Try a free trial of Action Utilities, from Poweron Utilities who 
purchased Now .  
http://www.actionutilities.com  Some sites offered a discounted price but 
I can't remember which.

     Learning is what is left after you have forgotten the rest!

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:04:44 -0800
From: KJ Aanestad <aanestad@wco.com>
Subject: Update on Mac Discovery Day

I posted a message a week ago about:

"The North Coast Mac User Group, in the heart of Sonoma County Wine
Country, is hosting Mac Discovery Day Saturday, October 17, 1998 at Santa
Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA from 10AM-5PM, offering a multitude of
activities, business solutions, demonstrations and displays to the general
public and Macintosh users of all levels. Vendors including Apple,
Connectix, Drive Savers and so on, will be there. NCMUG will be featuring
the iMAC. This is your chance to check out the iMAC in person. For more
information, please go to <http://www.winebirds.com/MDD2.html> and find out
what everyone is smiling about. Admission is FREE." As this is a fund
raiser, we will be selling tickets for drawings throughout the day.

The NEWEST INFO is that Apple is going to be there to do a premiere demo of
OS 8.5 and show off the iMAC. A terrific opportunity for you and your
family and friends to check out the latest from Apple and the other
fabulous vendors.

Workshops happen every hour on the hour throughout the day such as:
* Quickbooks
* Apple OS 8.5
* Drive Savers - The Care and Maintenance of your Hard Drive
* Photoshop Tips and Tricks
* How to Build a Database for your Small Business
* New Users Q&A

North Coast Mac User Group is having LOTS of prizes in a drawing to be
given away  every half hour all day. The grand drawing will be Adobe's
Photoshop 5.0 and Adobe ImageReady 1.0, which will be awarded at the end of
the day. Throughout the day, we'll see other Adobe products such as
PageMill 2.0, Adobe Acrobat 3.0, Adobe Type Twister 1.0, Adobe Type On Call
4.1, Adobe PhotoDeluxe 2.0. A whole slew of other nifty software from other
vendors. The door prize is a portable CD player.

Hope you can make it.

KJ Aanestad

KJ Aanestad
aanestad@wco.com

Smile and Grin, Go at it Again. Dream Big, Dare to Fail.

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Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:30:36 -0700
From: Bill Moynihan <Bill.Moynihan@trw.com>
Subject: Y2K assessment software


Acknowledging that the Mac is Y29K compliant is anyone aware
of any inventory and assessment software that is available
for the Mac that could be used to inventory a system?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bill.Moynihan@TRW.com

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