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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 22 Apr 99       Volume 16 : Issue 291

Today's Topics:

      
      (A) Palm Desktop Problems & Questions
      [A] Palm Desktop Problems & Questions
      [A] Palm Desktop Questions (re: USB)
      [A^2] Beeps and browser delays
      [Q] CD-ROM problems with PowerComputing system HELP!
      [Q] G3 (rev2) DT adding drives
      [Q] Un-delete-able Item In Trash
      Dental Office Software??
      Excel Question
      Funky Colors on Startup
      Fwd: couple of questions about MacTuner
      How to set up 2nd email account on Netscape Communicator 4.5?
      Mac OS 8.6beta2
      Netscape download problem
      Un-delete-able Item In Trash

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:45:09 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: 

This is a request for a recommendation for shareware (or a better use of a
program I may have, such as Excel or Quicken or ClarisWorks or FileMaker).

My 14-year-old daughter gets an allowance that is supposed to cover various
specified categories of expense. I have tried to make a spreadsheet into
which she could put her income each week, and then distribute it into
categories of budget that would keep growing as long as she didn't spend
anything out of a given category. Then when she wants to buy, say, clothes,
she looks at the bottom line, sees how much she has saved in her budgeting
for that category, and knows how much she can spend. She spends it, then
notes how much she spent in that category, and the bottom line of that
category decrements by that much.

All the while there is a Total line that shows the total money she should
have on hand.

I hope that is clear. I want her to save in categories and spend in
categories, and know how much remains in each category because she somehow
notes her expenses as coming out of one category or another.

Does anyone know of an existing program that does pretty much just that? If
I were cleverer with FileMaker, I have a feeling it would be a good way to
do it, but I don't know it that well.

Daly

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:31:54 -0400
From: "Peter J. Paul" <pjp@cheerful.com>
Subject: (A) Palm Desktop Problems & Questions

> I was looking around in a shop and I noticed that there definitely is a
> Palm Pilot Cradle that connects via the USB port, but the box said "FOR
> PC's" so I ignored it. I assume that drivers don't exist for the mac.
> But at least it seems that some company out there realizes that there is
> a market for this product line. Lets hope they create the appropriate
> software for mac users soon. Hell, maybe it already exists. Anyone?
Keyspan (http://www.keyspan.com) makes what you want for $40
Peter J. Paul

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:31:18 PDT
From: "Randall G. Floyd" <Randall.Floyd@sdms.usa.xerox.com>
Subject: [A] Palm Desktop Problems & Questions

Michael,

You can get a Palm Pilot Cradle for any serial Mac.  To use it on a USB
Mac, you just purchase a converter from them (I'd also assume other third
party adapters would work, but who knows).  3Com's web site has lots of
good information on it about using Palm Pilots with Macs.

Randall

>I was looking around in a shop and I noticed that there definitely is a
>Palm Pilot Cradle that connects via the USB port, but the box said "FOR
>PC's" so I ignored it. I assume that drivers don't exist for the mac.
>But at least it seems that some company out there realizes that there is
>a market for this product line. Lets hope they create the appropriate
>software for mac users soon. Hell, maybe it already exists. Anyone?
>
>-Michael

<mailto:Randall.Floyd@sdms.usa.xerox.com>

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 99 09:10:57 -0700
From: "B. J.  Major" <bjbear@ibm.net>
Subject: [A] Palm Desktop Questions (re: USB)

In reply to:

>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:27:31 -0500
>From: Michael Gerber <mgerber@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Palm Desktop Problems & Questions
>
>I was looking around in a shop and I noticed that there definitely is a 
>Palm Pilot Cradle that connects via the USB port, but the box said "FOR 
>PC's" so I ignored it. I assume that drivers don't exist for the mac. 
>But at least it seems that some company out there realizes that there is 
>a market for this product line. Lets hope they create the appropriate 
>software for mac users soon. Hell, maybe it already exists. Anyone?

Heh.  You can ignore the "for PCs only" where USB is concerned--and that 
goes for ANY USB device.  USB is a cross platform standard and anything 
that comes out for USB on PCs will have no trouble being "seen" by iMacs 
and b/w G3s.  AFAIA, USB devices need NO driver, which is one of the 
advantages for Apple switching to this kind of interface.  I am, myself, 
still in the serial port and SCSI world where my own Macs are concerned, 
but the whole point of Apple moving to this new standard means that the 
newer Macs can share all kinds of USB devices that were formerly for PCs 
only--including mice, keyboards, external disc drives, printers, you name 
it.  In addition to the product you mention, there is already a 
serial-to-USB converter attachment available for people who purchased the 
older Palm serial cradle or cable and have a USB capable Mac.

Regards,
--bj

Home Page with links to my Classic tv Photo Galleries:
<http://bjbear.computer.webjump.com>

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:54:46 +1000
From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <sysadm@zws.com>
Subject: [A^2] Beeps and browser delays

> From: Marlon Deason <marlond@earthlink.net>
> 
> I have a PowerBook 5300 and I also get one prolonged beep every once in
> a while. Here's my theory and I'm pretty sure it is correct, but I will

Marlon,

I haven't read the thread up to this point, but if you are hearing a
~2sec high-pitched tone from your PowerBook it is probably your hard
drive. I have noticed this with IBM OEM 2.5" drives - first in my
PowerBook 1400, then later in several PCs I've had through my hands.
Under some circumstances, they go into some kind of recal process which
[I guess] whisks the heads back and forth across a short travel at
maximum acceleration, generating the "beep" noise. I noticed this at
first when ejecting PCMCIA cards from my 1400; sometimes the shock of
the card ejecting would trigger this phenomenon. Also when I was writing
some very annoying code on my PowerBook, and I would thump the table in
frustration, it would sometimes make that "meeeeeep!" noise to remind me
of the hard disk's mortality :-)

Also remember that the 5300 (and the 1400, for that matter) have PIO
disk access, so if part of the snd resource needs to be demand-loaded,
and there is other activity going on, the request may not be serviced
immediately.

-- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards <http://www.zws.com/>
Embedded SW/HW Eng, Coin-Op Collector, Lover Of Nostalgic Computers

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:31:24 -0400
From: "W. R. Wing" <wrw@ornl.gov>
Subject: [Q] CD-ROM problems with PowerComputing system HELP!

I suspect this must be a recurring theme someplace...

I have a PowerComputing PowerWave system that seems to have trouble 
with dealing with CD-ROM drives.  I assumed the internal drive had 
died, so bought an external which worked fine for a few weeks.  Now 
the external won't mount disks either.   I've tried Apple's drivers, 
FWB's CD-ROM toolkit, and the drivers that came with the external 
CD-ROM.  No joy.  Has anyone experience with this sort of thing?

Thanks,

Bill Wing

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:30:47 -0700
From: Caryn Roberts <carynkr@earthlink.net>
Subject: [Q] G3 (rev2) DT adding drives

I have a G3/300 (rev 2 - new in Oct. 98) DT with the following factory
installed internal drives:
1. 6 GB IDE (ATAPI) hard drive
2. 20x CD-ROM IDE (ATAPI)
3. Internal ZIP IDE (ATAPI)

They are configured as indicated below:

begin included message -- begin included message
----- -------- ------- -- ----- -------- -------
Internal ATA
      ID = 0
            Hard drive                 Driver version:   3.2.1
               Mac OS partitions:   4
               Removable media:  No
               Vendor:  WDC
               Revision number:  08.09L08
               Product ID: AC36400L 
               Serial number: WD-WM4201236241     
               Unformatted size: 6 GB
            
   Internal ATA
      ID = 0
            CD-ROM drive
               Driver version:   Not available
               Mac OS partitions:   0
               Removable media:  Yes
               Vendor:  CD-ROM
               Revision number:  2.2c    
               Product ID: CDU611-25 
               Serial number:             
               No media inserted
      ID = 1
            Removable media
               Driver version:   Not available
               Mac OS partitions:   0
               Removable media:  Yes
               Vendor:  IOMEGA
               Revision number:  25.D    
               Product ID:  ZIP 100       ATAPI 
               Serial number: 
--- -------- ------- -- --- -------- -------
end included message -- end included message

My question:
There is an empty internal bay for adding a second drive. Has anyone
successfully added a second ATA drive to bus 0? If so, how?

Peace,
Caryn

-- 
There are two kinds of people in the world:
Those who need closure.......

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:53:47 -0500
From: Chaz Larson <chaz@visi.com>
Subject: [Q] Un-delete-able Item In Trash

At 1:15 AM -0700 4/17/99, Dan Waylonis wrote:
>There are no files in the empty folder, but I still can't get rid of it.
>Any thoughts?

Random ideas:

Boot from another disk and try to empty the trash.

Run Disk First Aid.

Run Tech Tool Pro. [sometimes these two find things that Norton 
misses, and vice versa]

Backup the rest of the disk, reformat, and restore it.

chazl

Why do I have to move with a crowd of kids that hardly notice I'm around?
I have to work myself to death just to fit in.          - The Who, Cut My Hair
Chaz Larson     -    chaz at spamcop dot net    -    http://www.visi.com/~chaz

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:52:24 -0700
From: Jennie Winter <jwinter@pacbell.net>
Subject: Dental Office Software??

Greetings!

I have a friend who is an endodontist and he is looking to upgrade his
current computer system. He is currently running an ancient DOS
system/software. I asked him if he had considered going with the Mac OS
and he said he couldn't because there is no software available. I know
this isn't true and have found one program, DentalMac, that looks good.

What I am hoping is that some of you may be able to provide reviews of
this program or suggestions for some other Mac software for running his
office. He currently has one partner and they have two office locations.
They want to be able to do everything by computer, perhaps including 
their treatment notes at some point. They will need to be able to
network at least 3 computers at one office and have the capability of
linking the two offices together.

I appreciate your assistance. I would really like to be able to save him
from going to Windows--he has no idea what he'd be getting into.

Reply to:  jwinter@pacbell.net

Regards,
Jennie Winter

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:25:38 -0400
From: Stephen Shapar <shapar@erols.com>
Subject: Excel Question

1.  To change the font in an existing worksheet: (i) select the whole
worksheet by clicking once in top-left box (i.e., the empty box to the left
of Column A and above Row 1) (ii) Format ==> Cells ==> Font.

2.  To set/change the default font:  Tools ==> Options ==> Module Format.

3.  FWIW, answers to these and just about any other question can be found
in Excel's excellent built-in help.

HTH,
     ...Steve

>I am using EXCEL 5.0, and Mac OS 8.1 on this machine.  How do I change the
>font used in my spreadsheets.
>
>Two cases:  first, fonts in existing spreadsheets;  second, fonts in new
>spreadsheets.  That is, I would like the spreadsheet application to open,
>prepared to use Helvetica narrow, instead of whatever it currently uses,
>which looks like Helvetica.

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:28:59 -0700
From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
Subject: Funky Colors on Startup

It would appear that you have an extension that is causing that.  I would
suggest using the estension manager and creating a new extension set with
half of your extensions active - half disabled.  Reboot and see what
happens.  If the problem exists, its one of the active extensions.  If not
it one of the disabled ones.  Take half of the next group etc until you
find the one that is causing the problem.  Once you find it, you may be
able to find a configuration item that will prevent it.

-- Doug

>I've got an 8500 upgraded to NewerTech G3 running OS 8.5.1.  I've got
>two monitors, the primary on an ATI VR XClaim at thousands of colors,
>and the secondary (but startup) on the motherboard at thousands of
>colors.
>
>Something happened to my system recently.
>
>When I startup, as soon as the "Welcome To Macintosh" switches from
>the startup monitor, the colors on the primary one are "strange".
>That is, purple, red, green, etc.  It really looks like a palette
>mixup on a 256 color monitor.
>
>The "fix" is to run Adobe Gamma control panel.  The colors instantly
>go to the correct ones.  If I save the settings, the colors remain.
>If I cancel, the weird colors return.
>
>The other interesting thing is that if I startup with Extensions OFF,
>I get the normal colors.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 04:07:13 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: Fwd: couple of questions about MacTuner

I have to find out if this is just me or other people. This morning I
opened the IO-MUG digest and then the Info-Mac digests that came in over
night (night of 20 April). I found that in the lower left corner of the
digest message where the digest mailbox icon usually sits, there was a
black movie player window with a control bar at the bottom, like a
QuickTime movie player window. Weirdly, the digest was slowly scrolling by,
frame by frame, showing me the text of the digest, one tiny frame at a time.

Yesterday I installed QuickTime 4. It works fine except that the
MoviePlayer portion of it crashes with a Type 1 error with my regular
(criminally huge) extension set, though it works fine with 8.5.1 set.
That's the only significant change I'm aware of.

But suddenly I get a movie instead of a digest!? Then inside the IO- MUG
digest I saw a post from the MacTuner people. Could these little windows
have something to do with MacTuner?

Anyway, did anyone else get a movie window instead of a digest icon in
recent days?

??!!??

Daly

>Hey all.  We're the guys who wrote MacTuner (the global
>media receiver for Macs).  Our new version, 2.0, was
>specifically rewritten (from 1.0) to be able to support
>68040 machines (1.0 was PPC/G3 only) as well as PPC/G3,
>etc.  We've got a couple of questions ...
[snip]
>MacTuner Support Team
>MacTuner - Global Media Receiver
>support@mactuner.com
>http://www.mactuner.com/
>

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:45:50 -0400
From: Irma <ihuston@drfast.net>
Subject: How to set up 2nd email account on Netscape Communicator 4.5?

My wife and I use the same computer but we have different email
accounts.

Right now, I have two separate Communicator folders on my desktop for
each of us.  Is there any way we can use the same folder?

I just can't seem to find any info on this in the documentation.

Thanks

David Huston
Cleveland, OH
dhuston@drfast.net

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:14:09 +0900
From: "Allan Sutherland" <allan@kyushu-ns.ac.jp>
Subject: Mac OS 8.6beta2

Hi,

Can anyone advise where it is possible to obtain Mac OS 8.6 beta2?

Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:19 +0100
From: Bob Hansmann <bobbyb@cloud9.net>
Subject: Netscape download problem

I have experienced the same problem. If anyone can help, many thanks in 
advance!
-----------------
Subject: 
        downloading from Netscape 
   Date: 
        Sat, 10 Apr 99 22:05:26 -0000 
  From: 
        Ben Luffman <bluffman@escape.ca>

For the past two weeks I have been trying to download Netscape Navigator
3.04
128 bit encryption version from Netscape but it keeps telling me to try
later. It says
the "server is encountering some technical difficulties".Can anyone 
advise
alternative ftp site I can download the browser ? I have not been able 
to
find one . Please e-mail reply.

Ben
-------------------
Bob

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:43:36 -0700
From: Chris Schram <schram@mail.coos.or.us>
Subject: Un-delete-able Item In Trash

On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Dan Waylonis <danw@nekotech.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I recently moved a directory with a bunch of files to the trash.
>
>When I went to empty the trash, I was presented with a dialog that stated:
>
>	The item "" could not be deleted because it contains items that
>	are in use.  Do you want to continue?
>
[What he observed; what he tried]

You have witnessed the classic "Folder from Hell" phenomenon. Don't
panic. The easiest and most reliable fix is to boot from another volume
(System CD or floppy disk or Zip or whatever), then empty the trash.
While you're there run the latest version of Disk First Aid as a sanity
check against Norton.

Chris Schram schram@mail.coos.or.us http://www.coos.or.us/~schram/Chris/

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