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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 02 Jul 99       Volume 16 : Issue 321

Today's Topics:

      
      (C) Gerbils 
      (C) Norton  Proof positive
      (Q) Photoshop & After Effects versus ColorIT 4.0
      (Q) Recorded sound filtering/cleaning
      [A] Alternatives for At Ease 3.x?
      [A] Burning Mac readable CDs on Windows
      [A] How to burn bootable CD?
      [A] PB G3 and GSM phones
      [A] Reading PC CDs, another problem
      [Q] Function key problem
      [Q] How to compile an FKEY ?
      [Q] One ISP account - Two users
      [Q] Telephony options for 7350/180
      After Dark 4.0.3 & Kaleidoscope 2.1.2
      AppleTalk (LocalTalk) solution for iMac?!
      audio cd's
      Battery problem on PB1400cs
      bootable cds
      civ: call to power emulation fails
      connecting small network to internet
      connecting small network to the internet
      connecting small network to the internet
      Cross Platform BackUp's
      Cross Platform BackUp's
      Explorer to Netscape
      filing card utility
      Fwd: Explorer to Netscape
      How do I fix the disk's extents tree?
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #317
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #317
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #317
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #317
      Looking for simple spreadsheet/database
      Macintosh Plus and Qisk
      MacPPP 2.0.1 connect script followed by PAP
      Q: How to burn bootable Cd?
      QuickTime 4.01 / OS8.6 / CMMs
      Quicktime and processor speed
      Rebuilding the desktop
      Structure of MIDI Karaoke files
      switching from Emailer to Eudora
      System 7.1 and a Macintosh SE?
      transporting Powerbooks on motorbikes
      What kind of hardware upgrade do I need?

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:53:57 -0600
From: wil pope <willpope@taosnet.com>
Subject: 

Hi=A1=20

I=B4m trying to get a printer driver off the internet that will allow me to
get my thinkpad to=20
talk toa personal laserwriter 320- it loks like you had the same problem
some time=20
back-   is there a site to download from or can you e-mail me printer
driver software to=20
achieve this?   Did you need a special cable?   I tried to hook mine up and
it sems the=20
cable wasn=B4=B4t absolutely compatible but I=B4m not sure.=20

Can you help me?=20

Thanks!=20
=20

Will Pope  aka desperate=20

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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:29:53 -0400
From: a brody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: (C) Gerbils 

Dear Digest readers,
One of Apple's little gifts to people who bought MacOS 8.0 and 8.5 is 
a QuickDraw 3d modeling programming that is also a game!   Tucked in 
the CD extras of each CD-ROM is this amazing roller coster that you 
can edit.    You can change to any QuickDraw 3d model you want to be 
sliding up down and upside down on the rollercoaster, you can change 
the roller coaster track shape and size, you can change the ground 
texture, you can change the track texture.  And while the 
rollercoaster window doesn't look resizable, it is from the bottom 
right hand corner, so that you can display the model in full screen. 
Kids love it.   I was playing in Starbucks and some kids came over 
and really enjoyed it.   You may have to install QuickDraw 3d in 
order to use it, as usually it doesn't install by itself.

It plays at quite a nice speed on a Powerbook G3/233.

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:20:47 -0400
From: a brody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: (C) Norton  Proof positive

On  Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:30:45 +1000
Terry Murphy <tmur@ozemail.com.au>

wrote on the digest issue #316:

>Subject: How do I fix the disk's extents tree?

>I have run both Norton SpeedDisk and Norton Disk Doctor on my HDD recently and
>have received the following slightly alarming message.

>"A part of the disk's extents tree (node #2) was found to contain some invalid
>information (file number out of order).

>NDD cannot fix this problem"

>I'd certainly appreciate any suggestions anyone might have.

>Thanks in anticipation

>Terry Murphy

Dear Digest Readers:

This is the very problem I alluded to a couple digests ago about 
Norton not being trustworthy with MacOS 8.1 or above.    Please 
folks, if you need to repair your hard drive, backup your data 
frequently, and use Disk First Aid.  If Disk First Aid doesn't work, 
reformat the hard drive.  That is the only safe way to go about this 
with MacOS 8.1 or above.   You ask for proof that Norton can cause 
problems, look at this post above.   These disk extent tree errors 
are the very errors I got with Norton Disk Doctor which were followed 
by a Type 41 error and a reboot where there was no hard disk visible. 
Whatever you do, don't get Norton Disk Doctor to repair your Mac, 
unless you have MacOS 8.0 or earlier.   Norton Utilities is not to be 
trusted.

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:34:16 -0400
From: a brody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: (Q) Photoshop & After Effects versus ColorIT 4.0

Dear Digest readers,
To some who have not tried Microfrontier ColorIT 4.0 there might be a 
bias that there is no contest, but I want an honest opinion.  What 
can't ColorIT do that Adobe Photoshop and After Effects can?  I 
noticed that many cheap scanners now come with ColorIT, and I have a 
friend who wants to be able to use Photoshop and After Effects on a 
cheap scanner but doesn't want to spend a lot.

So for the capabilities of After Effects and Photoshop together with 
a scanner using 600 x 1200 resolution and compatible with a PowerMac 
8100's existing SCSI port, are there are any solutions under $1000? 
And if not, what capabilities will I be missing should I try to go 
under $1000 with ColorIt and a scanner?

Thank you.

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: 29 Jun 99 08:39:27 -0400
From: "D. Scott Beach" <sbeach@spamless.tht.net>
Subject: (Q) Recorded sound filtering/cleaning

Hi folks:
I'm gradually converting my collection of old 60's and 70's LPs to MP3s.
It's going pretty well but I'd love to find some kind of shareware that I
can filter the AIFF files with to remove pops, scratches and - most
importantly - that annoying fuzz around high end treble notes (sung Ss and
Cs).
Any suggestions?
- Scott

Remove the "spamless" to return eMail to me.
Scott Beach <http://www.front.net/sbeach/> Toronto, Canada

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:43:09 -0400
From: Scott Horton <shorton@lr.net>
Subject: [A] Alternatives for At Ease 3.x?

Hi,
The non workgroup At Ease is not functional, or at least not recommended 
or supported starting with MacOS8 or so I believe.

I have found "On Guard" by poweron software, to be a great alternative 
and a better product all around. You can download a demo from their 
website. It's standard set up is automatic and suitable for many users 
and is completely and highly customizable. I use it in a business 
environment with a shared Mac used for database entry as well as at home 
and have had no problems.

Good luck,
Scott

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:15:59 +0100
From: Ian Goldby <Ian@iangoldby.free-online.co.uk>
Subject: [A] Burning Mac readable CDs on Windows

Jason,

I'm afraid that you have a new coaster. The software you used on the PC
writes the disk in a special format that allows it to be written in small
packets, rather than a track at a time (without turning the laser on and
off). We have similar software where I work (DirectCD), and we don't use
it, because of incompatibilities with non-Win32 machines and older versions
of Windows. In our case, the CD writer also came with Adaptec's Easy CD
Creator. This is a more 'traditional' CD writing program,  where the user
gathers all the files into one place on the hard disk, and then the CD
Writer burns a whole CD session at once.

You need to choose a format for the CD. Easy CD Creator allows you to
choose between ISO 9660 format and a proprietry format from Microsoft
called JOLIET. Actually, JOLIET is just an extension of ISO 9660, so the
disks are (mostly) readable in machines that read ISO 9660 (like the Mac
and UNIX boxes).

Unfortunately, ISO 9660 format only allows uppercase file names of 8
letters, plus a 3 letter extension. Whilst JOLIET allows long file names,
when you insert the disk in a non-Win32 machine, you'll just get the short
ISO 9660 file names. So you might just as well use ISO 9660, and make sure
you name your files carefully.

To get proper Mac filenames, custom icons, etc, you need to burn the disk
in Mac HFS format. I did find a GNU program to do this on a PC, but haven't
dared try it. The configuration looks horrendous. If you want to try it,
give me a shout.

Ian.

>I live in a
>house where there's a recordable/rewritable CD drive hooked to a Win98
>machine. There's a piece of software included that allows a person to format
>a CD as you would a disk or hard drive and just copy files to it. ...
>But when I filled the CD on the Win machine and then took it to my Mac it
>gave me the "This disk is unreadable, would you like to format it" dialog.
>--
>Jason's permanent email:
> jchafin@bigfoot.com

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:36:08 +0800
From: "Tony Stanton" <cricketer@hotbot.com>
Subject: [A] How to burn bootable CD?

Not that easy. You need to make sure the sys folder is the first session on
the CD if you plan to create more than one volume. You also need to set the
software so it knows you want to create a boot disk. Copying the entire
volume doesn't always work. I theory, yes; in practice, I experienced a
number of start-up errors, the like of which I haven't seen since 7.6.1. The
only effective results I had were copying OS8 installation files from CD via
Zip, thereby using the apple start-up sys folder. I had no success copying
either the volume or the system folder. Finally, I backed up all my files to
CD - at $1 each, I made several copies just for the hell of it - then built
my ideal start-up disk using the OS8 start-up and installation files and all
the disk tools I could fit into 650mb. Works fine.

Things to watch out for if you want to make a universal boot disk are your
appleshare/network settings, the loading of extensions for graphics tablet
or zip drives and the settings of the folders to be copied, otherwise you
can be plagued with start-up alerts and having to navigate backwards through
open directory structures every time you boot up from the CD.

hth

-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice M. McNeil [mailto:mmcneil@bbn.com]
Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:08 AM
Subject: [A] How to burn bootable Cd?

>Could someone please give me instruction on how to burn a bootable CD?  I
am
>very new at burning CD so the more specific the more helpful for me.
It should be as simple as copying your system folder to the CD.  If
you copy everything, you will get all the preferences as they are
currently set.

-----|-----     Maurice "Mike" McNeil	(619) 495-2619/2600 FAX 7313
     0-0         BBN Technologies	mmcneil@bbn.com
     (_)+        9655 Granite Ridge Drive, Ste 245, San Diego, CA 92123

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:31:04 -0400
From: "Michael Blair" <mjblair@total.net>
Subject: [A] PB G3 and GSM phones

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:27:48 +0100, "Charles Arthur, The Independent" 
<carthur@independent.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:34:56 +0000, "Glen Hawkins" <glenhawk@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>I have just brought a new G3/400 Powerbook and would like to connect the
>>internal modem to my GSM phone (Nokia 6110).  I would rather not buy a
>>PCMIA
>>card as the PB already has a modem internally and not putting a new card in
>>would be an advantage. Anyone with ideas or experiences with this sort of
>>set up?
>
> I recently got a Nokia 6100 series mobile, which has an infrared port - as
> I guess yours would. Your PB has an IR port. It should be feasible to get
> the two to talk to each other, though word is that you''ll only get 9600bps.
>
> I have been playing around with mine over the past few hours, and the IR
> port can see the phone. No luck so far getting the two to talk though.

Straight from Nokia's web site Q&A:

Q: Does Nokia's 6100 series phones have infrared capabilities?

A. No. The lens at the top of the phone is only a cosmetic feature and is
not active in the US market.

--
Michael Blair
=======================================================================
Blair Technical Communications                      Tel: (514) 989-8713
106 - 3500 Atwater Avenue                           Fax: (514) 989-7521
Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3H 1Y5                Email: mjblair@total.net

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:25:42 +0000
From: Marlon Deason <marlond@earthlink.net>
Subject: [A] Reading PC CDs, another problem

Jason Chafin wrote:

>             .....there's a recordable/rewritable CD drive hooked to a Win98
> machine. There's a piece of software included that allows a person to format
> a CD as you would a disk or hard drive and just copy files to it. I have a
> lot of photographs that I've saved to my Mac hard disk or to Zip and decided
> that, since they were just files, I could transfer them to the Win machine
> and save them to CD (write once) and then be able to read them on my Mac.
> But when I filled the CD on the Win machine and then took it to my Mac it
> gave me the "This disk is unreadable, would you like to format it" dialog.

I suspect, Jason, that you are using Adaptec's DirectCD software for
Windows. If my hunch in right your CDs aren't being written in PC format
at all! There in fact being written in a wonderful new format called
'UDF'. 'UDF' or Universal Disk Format was create to alieviate the very
same headaches from which you are now suffering, isn't that great?!

I bet it would be even greater if you could see your files! Don't worry
heres how: aim your web browser over to www.adaptec.com and search their
site for 'UDF'. There you should find...a UDF file access extension.
With this in your extensions folder you should be able to read those
lame old PC CDs.

Better yet, you could spring for Adaptec's DirectCD for Mac. With it,
(and possibly a peppy new SCSI cable) you could create your own disks on
your Mac, who knows you may find you don't need that hammer err... PC as
much as you think!

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

BTW - the quote says it all! ;-)

Marlon Deason
marlond@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~marlond/macguerrillas/

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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:14:31 -0700
From: "David Van Nuys, Ph. D." <vannuysd@sonoma.edu>
Subject: [Q] Function key problem

Dear Netters,

I can't use my function keys to copy and paste in SimpleText and certain other
applications.  They do work in MS Word and Netscape and Claris, etc. 
So it can't be the keyboard itself.  I've tried reinstalling 
applications in which they don't work.  I've tried booting with 
extensions turned off.  The last thing I tried was a clean install. 
Still can't use the function keys to copy/paste in Simple Text.  Used 
to be able to do so.  I'm running a beige G3 96/266/4 with System 
8.6.  The problem started while running 8.5.1 but I had been running 
it for a long time before this problem appeared.  I don't have this
problem on my other G3 at the University.  The two machines are configured very
similarly.  I've run both Tech Tool Pro and Norton with no problems 
identified.  What on earth is going on?????  Please reply by email.

David
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Chair, Psychology Department    vannuysd@sonoma.edu
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Office phone (707)664-2847	Office fax (707) 664-3113
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:34:51 +0200
From: Hado.Hein@gmx.net (Hado Hein)
Subject: [Q] How to compile an FKEY ?

Can anyone point me to the page where is written how an FKEY is
compiled, please ?

Has the FKEY to be compile as a CODE rsrc and afterwards being renamed
to FKEY - or which entries to give, ...

I have some simple functions I need in testing code which I want to
assigned to an FKEY. Basicall these are just cpp-functions so compiling
them with init/main entry point is no prob.

As far as I found it in NIM the FKEY code is somewhat of directly
executable...

thx,
-- 
Hado Hein, Berlin, Fed. Rep. of Germany
      find PGP and http in Headers

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:50:16 +0300
From: Rafi Saar <saar@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [Q] One ISP account - Two users

Basically, I have a single account with my ISP, but I received to e-mail
accounts, so I'm setting up the second e-mail for my wife.
This means that I make one modem call and log in once with a password, but
then I can get e-mail for two different accounts that I have.

I myself use Eudora Pro and I found that I can add personalities.  However,
when I did that I found out that Eudora checks both my and my wife's e-mail
and puts them both in the same Inbox.  What I really hoped was that we'd
both have a seperate Inbox.
I could set up a filter to catch her e-mail address, but that might also
catch my own e-mail if my wife's also a recipient of that same e-mail.

So I decided to set up Outlook Express for her own e-mail.  Once I managed
to set up everything correctly with her login name, I found out that every
time I launch Outlook Express, this Microsoft program isn't any different
than any other Microsoft program and just tries to take control over my
computer.  What I mean is that Outlook Express will replace all my Internet
settings (of the Internet Control Panel) to the settings of my wife's
e-mail, and all that without even asking if that's what I want.  I'm not
even sure Eudora is checking those settings, but other applications might
and I still want my own settings to remain in the Internet control panel.

One solution that I found was to set up 2 settings in the Internet control
panel, one for my wife and one for myself, and set the Location Manager for
both our accounts.  Changing locations would on its own change the Internet
settings.  Basically what I gain is that I can easily reset my own old
settings.

However, I would prefer to know if there's maybe another solution.  One of
two things:

1) either Eudora Pro can actually put e-mail for different personalities
inside different Inboxes.

2) maybe there's an option in Outlook Express to NOT override the Internet
settings.

Or, if someone has even another solution, I'll be very pleased to hear.

Thanks in advance!
Rafi

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:15:33 EDT
From: Mercibeate@aol.com
Subject: [Q] Telephony options for 7350/180

Hi Folks,

I'd like to add telephony features to my 7350/180 (ie. digital answering 
machine) for 2 incoming phone lines. I currently use a GlobalVillage 33.6 
Internet Edition modem. For the most part, I've been very pleased with 
the modem and especially the software.

Does GV offer an option for me? Is there a better hardware and/or 
software solution for my needs?

TIA for all suggestions and replies.

Rob

See why we abandoned Los Angeles for rural Virginia! 
Visit http://members.aol.com/mercibeate

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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:42:06 -0400
From: a brody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: After Dark 4.0.3 & Kaleidoscope 2.1.2

Dear Digest readers,
Well found another conflict.    Turns out if I turn on Kaleidoscope 
2.1.2, the next reboot the control strip doesn't come out, and the 
bootup gets stalled with a clock cursor.   Remove After Dark 4.0.3 
from the control panels folder, and reboot, and then Kaleidoscope 
works, and control strip comes out OK.

Separating After Dark and Kaleidoscope into different Extensions 
Manager sets or Conflict Catcher sets should fix the problem.

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:26:34 -0500
From: Gib Henry <gibhenry@realpeople.com>
Subject: AppleTalk (LocalTalk) solution for iMac?!

Is there one?

We want to transition to EtherNet on the iMac, but don't yet want to give
up on our laser and inkjet printers which connect via AppleTalk (LocalTalk).

Alternatively, is there an economical "bridge" between EtherNet and
LocalTalk that would support HP DeskWriters?

A direct response to <gibhenry@realpeople.com> would speed things
immensely.  Thanks!  Cheers,
--
Gib Henry

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:40:05 -0500
From: John Popowitz <jopop51@warwick.net>
Subject: audio cd's

I bought a LaCie 4x8 CD-R  (Pioneer CW-7502) that supports packet
writing. I use Toast 3.5.6 as the recording software. I want to know if
Jam or any other software will allow me to adjust the time between audio
tracks to either fade in and out without the two second delay. Toast
says I can not. Also the Toast manual doesn't fully explain "closing" a
session so that all the songs can be read on a home or auto cd player.
It only reads the first track. I have used the "write session" button
until the last song and then used the" write disk" button. Any help
would be appreciated.  Thanks, John

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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:52:15 +0100
From: "sjh" <rocknroll@lineone.net>
Subject: Battery problem on PB1400cs

I have a Powerbook 1400cs running 8.5.1. When running on battery power, I 
get the "you are now running on reserve power...etc" alert while I still
have loads of battery charge left (all seven bars in the control strip
monitor). The irritating thing is that the alert signals a dimming of the
screen which I can't reverse; I then have to work with a dimmed screen for
the rest of my time on battery power.
NB this problem has persisted through (unrelated) processor and logic board
replacements.
Anyone have any ideas on how to rectify the problem?
Simon Hardeman

-----------------------------------------------------
Home page: http://website.lineone.net/~simonhardeman

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:52:29 -0400
From: dead nancy <deadnancy@merkins.com>
Subject: bootable cds

hi, everybody.

> >Could someone please give me instruction on how to burn a bootable CD?  I am
> >very new at burning CD so the more specific the more helpful for me.

> It should be as simple as copying your system folder to the CD...

except that it's not. 

with toast, for example, you need to use the "mac volume" option, then
select "bootable" from (semi-)hidden controls in the data window.

xox,
dead nancy
http://www.merkins.com/

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:39:16 -0400
From: dead nancy <deadnancy@merkins.com>
Subject: civ: call to power emulation fails

hi, everybody.

end result: i was unable to run civilization: call to power under
virtual pc. no one else reported doing so, either. doesn't seem unusual,
though: the program (patched to 1.1) was also pretty buggy on an sgi
wintel box i installed to.

after half a dozen complete installs (vpc, win95 and civ:ctp,) i
experienced crashes in every possible place (finder, vpc, win95 and
civ:ctp,) yet no civ. looks like i'll wait until xmas 99 for the mac version.

xox,
dead nancy
http://www.merkins.com/

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:19:08 -0400
From: "Scheer, Daniel" <ScheerD@aetna.com>
Subject: connecting small network to internet

Reply to:

>Subject: connecting small network to the internet
>
>I have some friends that have three imacs in their house.  I am going 
>to network them together with a small ethernet hub and set up a 
>networked printer and scanner.
>
>I had question on how to hook them all to the internet...Is there a way
that
>3 macs could be hooked up to a DSL or Cable internet hookup?
>
>Thanks, David
>
>hirschberg@stanford.edu

The best option I for you seems to be IPNetRouter, from Sustainable Networks
(www.sustworks.com). Since you are already going to have them all come
through an ethernet hub, this application will mask IP addresses for the
other computers, allowing them to use the internet through the cable modem
simultaneously. The website has a great tutorial about how to hook them up
and set up the software for the exact situation you have. I have 2 macs
connected this way, and it work great. On a downside, you need to have the
machine that runs IPNetRouter on and running the configuration for the
others to go online. Best to have the 'server' or main Mac have the app,
with an alias of the configuration created with IPNR in the Startup Items
folder.

Good luck!

Dan Scheer
Manchester, CT
scheers@home.com

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:17:27 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: connecting small network to the internet

David L Hirschberg asked:

We have our 3 Macs connected to the internet by hooking a cable modem to a
hub, and all three Macs to the same hub. We pay our cable company (we use
the Roadrunner service) an extra $5 per month for each of the two extra IP
addresses, so for $55 a month we each have an individual cable account,
using the same cable modem. If you want to use modems and not cable, check
out Sustainable Softworks' IPNetRouter at http://www.sustworks.com/

That would let all three Macs share the same internet connection using
their modems.

Anyway, I would think your best and easiest solution would be to put the
cable modem on the hub as well as the computers. Combining that solution
with IPNetRouter would let them all share a single cable modem account, if
that's what they prefer.

Daly

>I have some friends that have three imacs in their house.  I am going
>to network them together with a small ethernet hub and set up a
>networked printer and scanner.
>
>I had question on how to hook them all to the internet.  They all
>have 56k modems which can only attain 26kbs with the old wiring in
>the house.  THe cost to upgrade the phone feed is steep (they have
>maxed out their 3 line feed and the feed is underground from the
>street).
>
>So what type of solutions are out there that would allow an internet
>connection?  They looked into getting a 4th phone line so I guess
>they would be willing to pay about $75 a month for some type of phone
>solution.  Would DSL be an option?  They also have TCI cable which I
>think @home serves.  Is there a way that 3 macs could be hooked up to
>a DSL or Cable internet hookup?
>
>Thanks, David
>
>hirschberg@stanford.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:11:21 -0400
From: dead nancy <deadnancy@merkins.com>
Subject: connecting small network to the internet

hi, everybody.

> >I have some friends that have three imacs in their house.  I am going
> >to network them together with a small ethernet hub and set up a
> >networked printer and scanner.
> >I had question on how to hook them all to the internet...

> it would be worthwhile having a look at IPNetRouter...

i use ipnetrouter at work to connect four macs and an nt box to the net
through a single modem. (obviously use is staggered.) seems very stable,
even running behind other apps (the server is also a design station.)
setup was easy. 

i've also tried vicom's softrouter, but never got it to work properly.

and another option to cable modem or dsl would be an ethernet-based
internet router with multiple line capabilities (since they've got 3.)
macsense makes one. speed probably wouldn't be what it would be with dsl
or cable, but setup and equipment would likely be cheaper.

xox,
dead nancy
http://www.merkins.com/

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:21:12 -0400
From: Edward Bebee <upstart@xe.net>
Subject: Cross Platform BackUp's

>Is there any automated back-up systems that will run on a Mac that will 
>back-up
>both Mac and PC at the same time to the same tape storage ?

Retrospect will do all of the above. You'll need Windows Client software from Dantz, tho'.

Best;

-- Edward J. Bebee

---------------------------------------
Upstart Associates
designed communication
(416) 591-0995 voice /(416) 977-1452 fax
http://www.upstart.xe.com

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:51:53 -0700
From: "Daniel O'Donnell" <danod@pacbell.net>
Subject: Cross Platform BackUp's

Later versions of Retrospect (4.0 and later) will back up Win 95, 98 or NT.
You might check the Retro-Talk listserv - high signal-to-noise ratio, lots
of Retro admins with experience, and a lot of contributions from Dantz
technical staff. This is one of the best subject-specific listservs I've
seen, and considering how important backups are I'd say it's well worth the
subscription price. ($0 <g>).

To subscribe:   <mailto:retro-talk-on@latchkey.com>
To unsubscribe:  retro-talk-off@latchkey.com

At 9:54 AM +0100 on 6/25/99, Alex Brown wrote...
>I have found myself looking after a small network of computers, both Mac
>and PC.
>I am looking for a package that will back-up both platforms (to tape). At
>the moment I am using Retrospect (for the Mac's), but that seems only to work
>on a single computer type.
>
>Is there any automated back-up systems that will run on a Mac that will
>back-up both Mac and PC at the same time to the same tape storage ?
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Alex Brown.
>
>============================================================
>|Alex Brown                ||e-mail: a-brown@nimr.mrc.ac.uk|
>|MRC Collaborative Centre, ||      : abrown@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk |
>|1-3 Burtonhole Lane,      ||tel.: 0181 906 3811 x 6301    |
>|Mill Hill, London NW7 1AD.||                              |
>============================================================

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:56:28 -0700
From: "Daniel O'Donnell" <danod@pacbell.net>
Subject: Explorer to Netscape

I know there are several ways to do this, but I've found that URL Manager
Pro (search Info-Mac or <http://www.url-manager.com/>) is the absolute BEST
way to manage URLs. And it will also manage URLs for ftp and email
addresses. It works with either IE or Netscape (either Navigator or
Communicator), and will move bookmarks into and out of all three. However,
once you start using URLM you probably won't use the bookmark/favorite
functions in your browser anymore, as URLM is so superior in its
capabilities for bookmark management.

HTH,

DOD

At 10:43 PM -0400 on 6/24/99, Gino Landini wrote...
>Hi. I want to change over from internet explorer to netscape but am having a
>bad time importing addresses and favorites. netscape has a method to import
>addresses but I cannot get it to work properly. In addition, they do not
>have an import feature for favorites/bookmarks. Any suggested method would
>be greatly appreciated. Just an afterthought, how does netscape hope to
>capture customers from explorer when they make it so tough? You can import
>everything into explorer from netscape.
>Thanks for the anticipated help.
>Gino landini

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:48:54 +0200
From: "Andreas \"Maverick\" Frick" <afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Subject: filing card utility

Dear Readers,

I am searching for a filing card utility to organize my notes.
NewNotepad is nice but can not print reports but only single notes.
Are there any good alternatives (also commercial)?

Best regards

Andreas

-- 
Andreas Frick                   | Phone:  ++49-721-608-6586
AIFB at University of Karlsruhe | Fax:    ++49-721-693717
D-76128 Karlsruhe, Germany      | E-mail: afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:33:25 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: Fwd: Explorer to Netscape

Gino Landini wrote:

>Hi. I want to change over from internet explorer to netscape but am having a
>bad time importing addresses and favorites. netscape has a method to import
>addresses but I cannot get it to work properly. In addition, they do not
>have an import feature for favorites/bookmarks. Any suggested method would
>be greatly appreciated. Just an afterthought, how does netscape hope to
>capture customers from explorer when they make it so tough? You can import
>everything into explorer from netscape.

Try copying the "Favorites.html" file from the Explorer preferences to your
User file in the Netscape Users folder in the Preferences folder in your
System folder. Once it is copied over, rename the file from
"Favorites.html" to "Bookmarks.html" then start up Netscape and take a look
at your bookmarks. This may be all you need to do.

Daly

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:54:58 -0400
From: Rick Schultz <raschult@us.oracle.com>
Subject: How do I fix the disk's extents tree?

Terry,

I have experienced this error (or one like it) on several occasions.

The only way that I am aware of fixing it is to do a Norton recovery on
the HD. Don't necessarily use the Norton Recovery program, but use the
unerase program.

Let it do its thing in scanning the erased portion of the HD, then do a
Customized Search and set it to scan for real files on the HD and as
Criteria, use Catalog Tree Search. In the bottom of the window, set it
for Search within known catalog only.

You will, of course, need to have a secondary HD to save the files to.
This process should give you back most, if not all, of your files. You
may need to rebuild the folder structure of the HD to some extent. It
depends upon how much damage was done to the directory and where in the
directory it was.

Hope this helps.

-Rick Schultz

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:37:31 +0100
From: Garry <garry@gdnass.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #317

>
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:08:12 -0700
>From: "Maurice M. McNeil" <mmcneil@bbn.com>
>Subject: [A] How to burn bootable Cd?
>
>
>>Could someone please give me instruction on how to burn a bootable CD?  I am
>>very new at burning CD so the more specific the more helpful for me.
>It should be as simple as copying your system folder to the CD.  If 
>you copy everything, you will get all the preferences as they are 
>currently set.
>
>-----|-----     Maurice "Mike" McNeil	(619) 495-2619/2600 FAX 7313
>     0-0         BBN Technologies	mmcneil@bbn.com
>     (_)+        9655 Granite Ridge Drive, Ste 245, San Diego, CA 92123
> 
>
>
>------------------------------

I disagree. If using Toast software it is necessary to set the 
appropriate check box to make bootable.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:27:47 -0700
From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #317

>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:17:19 +0200
>From: Paolo Bartoli <pbartoli@iname.com>
>Subject: buy a used Powerbook 1400 / 3400
>
>I'd like to buy a used Powerbook and found a 1400/166 (upgradeable to
>G3/200 Mhz) and a 3400/200.
>I'd buy the 3400.
>
>I'd like to hear from PB3400 users how's going the machine. I'd like to use
>it for occasionally with QuarkXpress, Photoshop, Freehand and web composing
>applications. Is this machine enough powerful for the intended use?
>
>I know about the speedy G3's but it's almost impossible to find used PBG3s,
>else they're not cheap!
>
>**   Arch. Paolo Bartoli
>**   pbartoli@iname.com

When the PB 3400 was first released it was the fasted laptop available.  I
use mine exclusively.   While I don't use the apps you mentioned, I know
people who use them on desktop units much slower than my PB3400.  I do
music publishing and it screams with that.

-- Doug

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:39:49 -0400
From: John Rethorst <jcr2@xcornell.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #317

In article <7l0lgu$in$1@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>, moderator@info-mac.org
(The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote:

> >This occurred for both new and old dliks but only those labeled as being
> >from Iomega and not Sony or Fuji disks.
> 
> I've used those three brands and find them indistinguishable from one
> another as far as quality is concerned. 

I've heard they're all made in the same place.

-- 
John Rethorst

Remove the x to email.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:37:07 -0700
From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #317

>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:17:19 +0200
>From: Paolo Bartoli <pbartoli@iname.com>
>Subject: transporting Powerbooks on motorbikes
>
>Anybody knows if the Powerbooks can stand a normal (ie on paved roads)
>motorbike ride? Is there some part of the PB that'd suffer from motorbike
>stress?
>
>**   Arch. Paolo Bartoli
>**   pbartoli@iname.com

I would use a case with some padding and make sure the unit is off, not
sleeping.  I've had some jarring when moving a sleeping PB cause the
battery connection to open temporarily, but enough to crash the system.
Make sure its tied down well.

There is always http://www.ogrady.com/articles/extreme_powerbooks.asp for
some interesting stories of survival.  However, I have some reservations
about some of them.  I know trumpets that have failed under some of those
situations and theyare all metal.  I also know a friend who had a new PB170
for 2 or 3 days before dropping it about 3 feet to its complete demise.

-- Doug

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:09:05 +0100
From: Ian Goldby <Ian@iangoldby.free-online.co.uk>
Subject: Looking for simple spreadsheet/database

I've been searching for a very simple spreadsheet or database for the Mac.
I found several freeware ones for the PC, but no luck so far on the Mac.

All I want to do is to store data in a table. I'm currently using MS Word
5.1, but I'm about to run into its limit of no more than 32 columns.
Clearly, there is no justification for shelling out for a commercial
product for such a trivial task! Needs to work on a 68k Mac (LC 475).

Thanks for any suggestions.

Ian

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:15:19 +0200
From: Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi>
Subject: Macintosh Plus and Qisk

>You won't be able to make a boot floppy with a system later than 6.0.8 to
>fit on a 800k floppy, which is all the Plus supports

It is possible to squeeze System 7.0 on a 800K disk:

<http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba/>

Check also 68000-mac-faq <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/68000.txt>

--
Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi> <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/>

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:20:48 +0200
From: Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi>
Subject: MacPPP 2.0.1 connect script followed by PAP

>Recently I wrote:
>
>I've just changed ISPs and the following problem with MacPPP 2.0.1 has
>puzzled me with the new ISP (System 7.0.1* and 7.5.5, MacTCP 2.0.6,
>PowerBook 100):
>
>My ISP doesn't support Password Authentication Protocol (PAP) so I must use
>a Connect Script (BTW, exactly the same script works OK on another mac's
>FreePPP 2.6.2, System 8.1, PowerMac 8600/200).
>
>The problem is that MacPPP displays how the connect script runs just OK but
>after this there is a PAP authentication dialog with username and password
>fields. MacPPP's Authentication preferences are empty so, AFAIK, PAP should
>not be used, right?
>
>If I fill my PPP username and password to this PAP authentication dialog,
>another identical dialog is presented and after the 3rd dialog there is a
>message "PPP Phase: Authentication" but the PPP session never starts.
>
>My manual for MacPPP says:
>
>>If you leave the Connect Script blank or configure it incorrectly, and
>>leave the Authentication dialog empty, MacPPP prompts you for your
>>userid and password, just as you would have entered them in the
>>Authentication dialog.
>
> ...but I'm sure that the script is correct!
>
>I can succesfully start a PPP session manually by using the Terminal window
>but this is clumsy.
>
>Any ideas? Is there a bug in MacPPP 2.0.1 or at my ISP? (Yes, I've rebuilt
>MacTCP and PPP preferences from scratch and installed virgin copies of
>MacTCP and MacPPP).

I switched to MacPPP 2.1.2SD and now everything is OK.

p.s. Check 68000-mac-faq <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/68000.txt>

--
Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi> <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/>

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:23:37 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: Q: How to burn bootable Cd?

Phil asked:

>I am currently using OS 8.6, LaCie CD-RW 4416S burner, Adaptec Toast 3.8
>software.
>I created a website. I would like to put my System Folder, my website, and
>latest version of Netscape (4.6.1) on a bootable CD so I can take it around
>to present to people.
>Why? Because it's quicker than accessing through the internet, and some
>people don't have the latest version of Netscape, and some are still using
>the old OS 7.X.
>It's nice to have everything I need on a bootable Cd.
>
>Could someone please give me instruction on how to burn a bootable CD?  I am
>very new at burning CD so the more specific the more helpful for me.

Here is the answer someone sent me to the same question, and I did it, and
it worked. If you are running a b&w G3, it may not work - at least be sure
that the System folder you prepare is a universal system folder from the
Mac OS installer CD, otherwise you may be limited as to what machines will
boot from your CD.

Daly

Open Toast. Drag your folder with your Bootable CD info onto Toast. The
words under the yellow "Toast" should say "Mac Files & Folders". Now, go to
File and "Save as Disk Image..." Name it anything you want. Save it to the
desktop.

Once the image is done, click twice on it to open it. If you get a message
about saving, don't save. Now, the words under the yellow Toast should read
"Disk Image." Click on "Mount." Your disk image should show as a floppy on
the desktop. Now, drag the mounted image onto Toast. The words under the
yellow Toast should now say "Mac Volume." Click on "Data". Set the option
for Bootable. Agree to the license agreement. Click "Write CD" and see if
that works.

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:15:53 -0400
From: "Fraser J. Goodmurphy" <fraserg@wave.home.com>
Subject: QuickTime 4.01 / OS8.6 / CMMs

Since upgrading to 8.6, I find that CMMs which call QuickTime (like 
IconTools, Quickviewer, and even Fix Type) are causing a 2 second 
delay whenever I control-click.  Any advice?

Fraser

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:03:16 -0400
From: a brody <abrody@smart.net>
Subject: Quicktime and processor speed

Dear Digest Readers,
QuickTime Pro 3.0 on a Powerbook G3/233 with 512k backside cache 
flows smoothly through the Star Wars trailer without any bouncing. 
Yet when I run the same software on a 601/110 Nubus based Radius 
clone, it jumps all over the place from frame to frame even when I 
play all frames.   So the question is, what is the true minimum 
processor speed to achieve no sluggishness or bouncing using 
Quicktime 3.0, and/or 4.0?

Sincerely,
abrody@smart.net

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:28:17 -0500
From: John Popowitz <jopop51@warwick.net>
Subject: Rebuilding the desktop

I have a StarMax 3160, running 8.0 with 128 mb ram, and a Vpower
upgrade. I have been unable to rebuild the desktop. It goes through its
normal procedure until I come to the "Are you sure you want to rebuild"
window but the ok button is grayed out. It then goes immediately to the
desktop without rebuilding and all works fine. I have disabled the
VPower extension and have had the same problem. Before I start disabling
extensions I was wondering if any one else has had a similar problem.
Thanks, John

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 99 21:11:59 +0200
From: Jean-Philippe Pellet <jeanph@vossnet.de>
Subject: Structure of MIDI Karaoke files

Hello,

I'm trying to use AppleScript to change the character set
of MIDI Karaoke files (.kar in the PC world--and even in
the Mac world since QuickTime doesn't recognize the karaoke
text if the filename doesn't end with ".kar" :-((

If I try to do that on text files everything runs fine, and
the files are converted smoothly. But the contents of a
karaoke file are more complex and only a part of them
concerns the text and needs to be converted; if the rest
*is* comverted by my script, the file becomes unreadable. So
I just want to know if there's any info about the structure
of such a file I could take a look at to help me with the
script. I already seached the web using Sherlock without
getting what I wanted. Do you know where I can find info
about these .kar files?

TIA,

 -- Jean-Philippe

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:02:51 -0700
From: Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com>
Subject: switching from Emailer to Eudora

I'm afraid I forgot who wrote recently, trying to switch from Emailer 
to Eudora, and not knowing how to make the transfer. Just now I found 
on one of my Jaz disks a utility called "Emailer2Eudora". I don't 
know where I originally got it, but if anyone wants it, I can mail it 
to them. It only transfers the address book, not the mailboxes. 
Anyway, if it would be of use, let me know.

Daly

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:23:37 +0200
From: Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi>
Subject: System 7.1 and a Macintosh SE?

>NicolasAnaFrancayMirko <familiar@mati.net.mx>
>
>We have problems trying to instal System 7.1 on a Macintosh SE.

Check 68000-mac-faq <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/68000.txt>

--
Matti Haveri <matti.haveri@sjoki.uta.fi> <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/>

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:50:58 -0700
From: "Daniel O'Donnell" <danod@pacbell.net>
Subject: transporting Powerbooks on motorbikes

Unless the Powerbook is well insulated from the vibration of the road (low
frequency) and the vibration of the bike (high frequency), I don't think
this would be good for it. Small connections have very small joints or
points of contact and the vibration can break or separate these. If you
provide good insulation (also protection in case of crash) then it should
be fine. IMHO.

OTOH I have no direct experience.

HTH,

DOD

>Anybody knows if the Powerbooks can stand a normal (ie on paved roads)
>motorbike ride? Is there some part of the PB that'd suffer from motorbike
>stress?
>
>**   Arch. Paolo Bartoli
>**   pbartoli@iname.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:08:31 -0700
From: Jessi Hance <hance@got.net>
Subject: What kind of hardware upgrade do I need?

I have a Power Mac 6100/66 that I want to soup up a little. It now has 72
MB RAM, and I will probably get a 1 MB L2 cache for it. I also want to do
something about my mac's speed when I am playing an MP3 file - it gets
slower than snails or molasses. It also slows down a bit when I am playing
midi files. I really like my computer music! Do I need to be saving up for
a processor upgrade? (or a new computer?) Or is there something else that
will help? (I am very ignorant about hardware.)

I am hoping for a reply to this one as I have posted it twice on the Mac-L
mailing list with no response.

Thanks

-Jessi Hance
<mailto:hance@got.net>

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