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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 14 Apr 98       Volume 16 : Issue 87

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#425/13-Apr-98
      "Consultant" PIM?
      "Neapolitan Mac"
      (A) seeking LaserWriter II NT info
      [A2] Slow connect (Windows better?)
      [A]Re:System 8.1 question
      availability of greyscale displays
      Bad Zip Disks/Drive Summary
      Basic for Mac LCIII
      Calcomp Drawing Slate II
      Charting Durations in Excel
      Compatible Schedule and Email Pgms?
      Experience ith Office 98 on Slow PPC Macs?
      Free Celtic Windows MS fonts?
      refusal to restart
      Slow connect (Windows better?)
      TEMPO
      Wordperfect 3.5.5...

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:02:17 -0700
From: TidBITS Editors <editors@tidbits.com>
Subject: [*] TidBITS#425/13-Apr-98

TidBITS#425/13-Apr-98

So how does Word 98 rate? In the most detailed review you'll find anywhere,
Matt Neuburg pushes the hype aside to examine how good a job Microsoft did
with its flagship word processor. Also this week, we celebrate our eighth
anniversary by releasing TidBITS Web badges, cover recent changes in
Apple's developer and QuickTime licensing programs, and offer a tip for
returning Eudora Pro 4.0 to its old two-dimensional look.

Topics:
    MailBITS/13-Apr-98
    Furor Over Developer Programs & QuickTime Licensing
    A Word to the Wise - Word 98, That Is

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:40:08 EDT
From: Bob Warner <BobWarner@aol.com>
Subject: "Consultant" PIM?

Anyone using the shareware PIM "Consultant"?

Comments?

Many thanks! 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:57:28 -0700
From: mac@lsd.com
Subject: "Neapolitan Mac"

"Neapolitan" as in "three flavored" like those ice-cream sandwiches ;)

My employer's MIS dept is currently significantly confused over what
"company standard" wintel box (Toshiba or Dell) will run the "company
standard OS" (WinNT Workstation). We're a "very large" ($B+) software
company. Ironically, *neither* hardware vendor fully supports both NT
Workstation and NT Server(!) without significant hardware
incompatibilities. On the Toshiba, for example, if you're lucky enough to
install NT Server, you can't access the network... Umm... duh?

Both hardware vendors are "currently investigating how to offer full
support" for both OSes. Meanwhile, there's an opportunity to demonstrate a
G3 PowerBook besting them. Hopefully, the collective intelligence of this
list's membership can assist me and provide a real-world argument that will
be useful with MIS dept's everywhere.

The primary requirement is that "the laptop" be able to run _all three_
major OSes: MacOS 8.1, WinNT (min. /Workstation, /Server a plus) AND a
flavor of UNIX. Linux is preferred, as long as it's a real Linux. Solaris
is OK too, but BSD UNIX is no-go due to incompatibility with some of our
software, so MachTEN unfortunately doesn't fit the bill, AFAIK (someone
please educate me if I'm wrong). The three OSes do not need to run
simultaneously, but it would be nice to have the MacOS and the WinNT OS
able to do so, as with some of the software-based Intel emulators
(VirtualPC/RealPC/?).

All the OSes _do_ need to be bootable from the same internal HD
(partitioned, if necessary), and TCP/IP networking services _must_ be
available to all three without any major hardware modifications. I believe
I can win the other arguments (price, hardware specs, CPU speed,
compatibility, networking, etc). The main thing I need to be able to
counter is the argument that "we can't buy that because it doesn't run our
'company-standard' OS" (WinNT Wkstn).

Here are some immediate questions:
1. Has anyone done this already on a PowerBook (PPC or G3)?
2. What's the baseline RAM it will take to do this reasonably well?
3. Is there specific MacOS-based software that can run WinNT Workstation?
4. Is there specific MacOS-based software that can run WinNT Server?
5. Is there a version of MkLinux that will boot from a PPC/G3 HD partition?
6. How (what formatter) does one prepare a Mac HD to boot Linux?
7. Is there software to boot (or run) Solaris 2.5.1 or higher on a PPC/G3?

If you can answer "yes" to any of the above, or if you're currently a
MkLinux user, please contact me directly via email with "Neapolitan Mac"
somewhere in the subject. Since I need to move quickly on this, URLs and
any other info you can provide is greatly appreciated. I'll post my
findings back to the list, successful or not.

   dave

__________________________________________
"Even the mad scientists called me crazy!"

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:17:16 -0700
From: "Ton, Philong T" <Philong.Ton@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: (A) seeking LaserWriter II NT info

Paul,

I bought mine way back and the puppy is still working.
I don't know where you live but the last time I visited the Boeing
surplus store in south Seattle, they had quite a few of those sitting on
the shelves.
You may want to visit their website though not so informative it has
some numbers you can call.  Keep in mind that it's a BIG store.

http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/surplus/retail

Also, you might want to post your questions in the these newsgroups:

comp.sys.mac.printing
comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

When you have all the necessary parts, don't forget the switches in the
back of the printer.  They can be fun to figure out without a manual.  I
don't have the manual because I bought it used.

Good luck.
Philong Ton

>>>>>
Paul wrote
     Lucky me! I managed to acquire a brain-dead (doesn't respond to 
input) LaserWriter II NT a few weeks back. I'd love to try and get it 
running again, but I need a few items before I can begin diagnosing the 
illness. I'd like some sort of documentation (user's manual, service 
manual, info on common modes of failure), and I need a paper cartridge, 
and most likely toner, too. I've worn out Yahoo! and AltaVista searching

for clues on this boat anchor, but thought I'd try the list before
giving 
up. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!

Paul
pmullen@gte.net

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:03:50 -0000
From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <sysadm@zws.com>
Subject: [A2] Slow connect (Windows better?)


>>I'm using a PowerBook 1400cs with a 33.6 Megahertz modem, and I currently
>>use MS Internet Explorer 4. I've noticed that my connect speed doesn't seem
>>to be as fast as it should be.

[...]

>>When I browse the web on a much slower Windows based machine at my job, web
>>pages scroll very smoothly, yet my machine scrolls web pages very
>>annoyingly slow, even after they've fully loaded.
>
>I would suggest trying it with RAM Doubler & Speed Doubler disabled.  I've

[...]

>And finally, I also recommend people to upgrade to Apple's OT/PPP dial-up
>software, because it is the -only- software that is fully PowerMac -AND-
>Open Transport native (all other software talks to the emulated MacTCP API
>that's built into OT for backward compatibility).

The advice about disabling RAM Doubler and Speed Doubler is good, but 
this item about OT/PPP is not entirely true. It is true that OT/PPP is 
PPC native code - HOWEVER - The serial port driver in the 1400's ROM is 
-68K-. Only recentish PowerMacs (GeoPort serial architecture is the 
deciding criterion, I'm told) have PPC serial drivers. Using PPC native 
comms software on PowerMacs with 68k serial driver code actually results 
in, overall, a *worse* CPU loading because of the large number of mode 
switches. Running a 68k PPP implementation like FreePPP is actually more 
efficient on these PowerMacs, because there are far fewer mode switches 
per unit time.

Unfortunately, however, there are some pretty old designafossilosauruses 
lurking inside MacOS, and nothing short of Rhapsody is going to fix 
those. I'm inclined to believe that the original poster is simply 
noticing these artifacts of MacOS - a web browser capable of viewing 
active content is by nature a beast which exercises an OS's realtime 
multitasking potentials fairly vigorously, and MacOS multitasks very 
poorly. Both MSIE and Netscape Navigator on the Macintosh consist of a 
large number of hirsute kludges wrapped in a barefaced hack - and I only 
say that because I love them so much ;-) If you want to drive yourself 
insane one day, I suggest you sit down and try to write a Navigator 
plugin which works reliably.

One other suggestion to the original poster: Make sure your disk cache is 
nice and roomy. MacOS 8.x perks up substantially when allocated large 
amounts of disk cache. I run a PowerBook 1400cs/133 (128k L2), 32M RAM, 
OS8.1 on a single HFS+ partition as my primary machine, and although it 
isn't exactly frisky at WWW browsing (particularly on pages with Java), I 
would describe the performance as acceptable.

Remember too that most Windows machines (even fairly old ones, vintage 
95-96 or so) have graphics accelerator cards, which make window scrolling 
much faster - the 1400 has no graphics accelerator hardware at all and 
the poor old CPU has to pump all those bits through rather slow video 
memory.

-- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer)
Home:   <http://www.zws.com/>
Resume: <http://www.zws.com/resume.html>

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:24:01 -0400
From: shorton@lr.net (Scott L. Horton)
Subject: [A]Re:System 8.1 question

>I have a PPC8500 with 272 megs of ram running system 8.1. My internal 
>startup drive is partitioned into 3 volumes. The startup volume is HFS 
>and the other two are HFS+. I installed System 8.0 and then upgraded to 
>System 8.1.

>When I mount a volume, zip/floppy/jazz/CD the front most application is 
>killed. When the front most app is the Finder, then the Finder just 
>restarts itself. Onother symptom when this happens is my control strip 
>won't start up. Through trial and error I have found that trashing the 
>Finder preference file, Zap the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop files 
>seems to  temporarily alleviate the problem.

I had a similar problem on my Starmax 3000 with system 8.1 (not 8.0) I 
identified a conflict with Quicktime 2.5. Disable QT, and the problem 
went away. Only the foremost application (finder if that was it) would 
quit.

Upgrading to QT 3.0 "fixed" the problem. (At the time I had to use an 
endless series of QT3 betas)

Good luck,
Scott Horton

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:00:20 -0600
From: Stoney Burns <garamond@nkn.net>
Subject: availability of greyscale displays

Jack Campin <<cj@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

<italic>> ...Almost

> everything I do with a Mac is in monochrome, and I have never seen a

> colour monitor, at any price, that could match one of Apple's
late-80s

> greyscale monitors for sharpness and general restfulness ...

> Does anybody make comparable new ones?

</italic>I agree.  I, too, prefer monochrome or greyscale monitors.  My
friends call me the King of the Greyscale Monitors because I'm always
looking for good used ones.

Hitachi makes three GS monitors for Macs, according to their website,

http://www.nsa-hitachi.com/products/results/macmonodesk.htm.  Three
sizes, 15-, 20-, and 21-inch.  They are marketed under the RasterOps
name.  

I have had GS RasterOps monitors in the past (pre-Hitachi), and they
were pretty good.  If you get one, please give me a review.

 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:34:07 -0400
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4@cwru.edu>
Subject: Bad Zip Disks/Drive Summary

Last week, I posted a message regarding problems with zip disks having read
errors, clicking sounds (known as the Click of Death, or COD), and a few
disks that are totally useless. Several people replied (and pretty quickly,
too!), and the consensus seems to be that Iomega Zip drives are not to be
used for anything valuable.

Some people gave me pointers to web sites about this problem. Iomega's own
web site mentions a problem with zip drives making excessive clicking
noises, but they don't openly admit that they have created pretty faulty
hardware and cheap disks.

The crux of the problem seems to be that zip disks are floppy media, and
many disks from Iomega have imperfect surfaces. The tiny bumps in the
surface cause the drive heads to fall into the bump and tear the disk as it
rotates on the drive spindle. When the disk is ruined, it often ruins the
drive head, too (taking it out of alignment), and this causes other disks
to be damaged, as well. Also, a bad disk placed in a once fine drive can
cause that drive to be damaged, too. So, this whole thing is much like a
virus, except there's no protection.

Through reading many postings on some of the web sites, I've noticed
several people saying that disks NOT made by Iomega (i.e. Fuji, Maxell,
Sony) tend to be fine--it is almost always the Iomega brand disks that
cause problems.

Also, many people have said that Iomega will replace defective disks
because they are covered by a lifetime limited warranty. However, the drive
carries only a 1 year warranty, and it costs $80 (US) to replace the drive
with a refurbished one. And, calling Iomega tech support (the ONLY way to
contact their tech support!!) costs $15 per call for Zip drive related
products. They can determine that it is not your fault and then they won't
charge the $15... but they get your credit card # before they'll talk to
you, and you won't know what determination they'll make beforehand.

All in all, I will never buy an Iomega product again. Thanks, again, to
everyone who responded. Below are the URL's.

<http://www.macfixit.com/> (search for 'Z Track')
<ftp://ftp.iomega.com/pub/mac551.hqx> (address of latest driver software)
<http://www.thirdeyesp.com/jatin/iomega/> (Everything you wanted to know!)
<http://members.aol.com/zipcod1/Zip.html>
<http://members.aol.com/zipcod1/NewInfo.html>
<http://www.juip.com/cod.html>

-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.

There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:32:57 +0100
From: adrian strack <adrian.strack@IPONET.ES>
Subject: Basic for Mac LCIII

I would like to write (again) BASIC to draw rather complicated graphics on
the screen and for the printer. I have no time to start studying Inside
Macintosh. Is there a Version that is still supported?   Adrian Strack

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:02:50 -0600
From: Neil Fiertel <nfiertel@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Calcomp Drawing Slate II

	Does anyone know how ( or if it is possible ) to convert or use
with an external adapter a Calcomp Drawing Slate II which is designed for
the PC Serial port? There is a Calcomp Mac driver for the Drawing Slate II
out there so that should not be the issue but is there a Serial to ADB or
PC Serial to Mac serial port adapter that would permit the use of this very
expensive slate with my G3 Mac? The company tech says no way it can be done
but I wonder if he is incorrect. Please send me this information by Email
but also post for those who are interested in this.
nfiertel@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Thanks in advance...Neil Fiertel

"Just three rusty strands of barbed wire from the North Pole"

		Professor Neil Fiertel
		FAB-3-98
		Department of Art and Design
		University of Alberta
		Edmonton, Alberta
		Canada T6G-2C9

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:04:00 -0000
From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <sysadm@zws.com>
Subject: Charting Durations in Excel

>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 13:09:50 -0400
>From: Allan Hunter <ahunter@earthlink.net>
>Subject: [Q] Charting Durations in Excel

You are looking for something that will draw Gantt charts, as I'm sure 
many other people have told you 8-) Although I understand Claris/Apple 
have discontinued this product, ClarisImpact is definitely the software 
you need. It will generate all the business graphics you could ever want 
and many more; I think it's a great product.

Gantt charts are part of project management, which Excel isn't really 
geared towards (Outlook, if it's included in Mac Office 98, might do such 
things... but I couldn't say fersure, I don't use MS Office at all, even 
on Windows machines; there is something of a groundswell towards Lotus 
SmartSuite amongst Win users here in Oz).

-- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer)
Home:   <http://www.zws.com/>
Resume: <http://www.zws.com/resume.html>

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:35:32 -0400
From: "David B. Niethamer" <dnietham@richmond.edu>
Subject: Compatible Schedule and Email Pgms?

Peter, you wrote:

>Using MS-Outlook Express 4.0 for mail,
>Netscape 4.04 for browser, and Claris Organizer (demo) for contacts and
>schedules. Main problems are (1) company is using Schedule+ v7.5 for
>calendars. I'm having almost no luck interfacing with it; (2) want to migrate
>off Outlook Express to something more robust for email (Eudora Pro 4.0?); (3)
>want to have a contacts manager which interfaces with my email program so 
>that
>I only have to enter an email address once, and from then on the mail program
>will "pull" the address from the contacts manager. I have almost 700 names in
>my contacts database so updating each one 2 or 3 times in different programs
>is a non-starter. Request recommendations for  email/contact mgmt programs
>which will interface to meet objectives (2) and (3), and if it will allow me
>to interface with Schedule+ that's even better.

Try Claris Emailer (current version 2.0.3). On the Fog City web site, you 
can find two scripts, one of which will import your Claris Organizer 
email addresses into CEM, and the other of which will send your CEM 
addresses to CO. I read about 8 lists, and Emailer handles them all very 
smoothly. Also, Westcode (OneClick folks) have software "EmailTools" 
which will automate further some of the Emailer functions. Haven't used 
this, but some of the Emailer list folks have raved about it. About 
Schedule+ I don't know. But even though it is now apparently orphaned, 
Emailer is a great program. I dumped Eudora to use it.

David Niethamer
dnietham@richmond.edu
http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:11:12 -0500
From: Eric Rogers <rogersee@bu.edu>
Subject: Experience ith Office 98 on Slow PPC Macs?

I've been watching the Office 98 thread now, but I have yet to see an 
answer to my question:  can Office 98 run on a slower PPC Mac?

The MS specs call for a minimum clock speed of 133 MHz (it might a little 
higher, but I think this is right).  I use a Duo 2300c, which has a 100 
MHz chip.  Will Office 98 run on my machine?  Should I run Office 98 on 
my machine?  (RAM isn't a concern.)  

If anyone has experience with installing Office 98 on a wide variety of 
machines, please let me know how the slower PPC machines work out.  You 
can contact me directly, and I'll post the results to the list.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Student, Boston University School of Law
rogersee@bu.edu

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:33:25 -0500
From: "Dennis L. Davis" <dldavis@midusa.net>
Subject: Free Celtic Windows MS fonts?

There was a post with instructions on converting MS Windows Celtic PC
TrueType fonts to Mac to the info-mac mirrors.

My question is where to get the PC Fonts? I tried looking around the MS Web
site, but I have had no success. Does anyone know where I can download the
MS Windows Celtic PC TrueType Fonts, I understand that they are from
Microsoft and that they are free. Any suggestions?
Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
ICQ#5066430
Blessings, Denny <mailto:dldavis@midusa.net>

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:04:05 -0000
From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <sysadm@zws.com>
Subject: refusal to restart


>Lately my Powerbook 1400 refuses to re-boot when I click on "restart", and
>refuses to shut down when I click on "shut down".
>
>When I click on ctrl-apple-power, the computer reboots normally, however.

If selecting "shut down" is the metaphorical equivalent of tucking your 
child into bed and singing a lullaby, Ctrl-Apple-Power is the 
metaphorical equivalent of whacking your child over the head with some 
heavy object or pouring a bottle of brandy down its throat to get it to 
sleep. Definitely not recommended practise.

The symptom indicates that some application or other task could not quit 
in response to the power down request, or that Finder unexpectedly quit 
while the broadcast was going around. It occurs to me (I also have a 
PB1400, which I love 8-) sometimes when I have crashed or confused 
something - e.g. PPP, or the HP DeskWriter PrintMonitor - which runs in 
the background.

Although I can't say for sure if this will help you at all, the following 
sequence of steps may help to fix this problem if it's Power Manager 
related (yeah, there are three or so separate things being done at once 
in this sequence of steps, just trust me if you don't understand what is 
going on ;-) :

1. Drag Finder Preferences to the Trash.
2. Shut down the machine.
3. Remove main battery and disconnect AC power.
4. Press and hold reset button (between serial and ADB ports under hatch 
on rear of machine) for 45 seconds.
5. Insert battery and reconnect AC power.
6. Press Power. As soon as you hear the startup chord, hold down 
Cmd-Opt-P-R and hold it down. At this point, one of two things will 
happen: Either the machine will pause, the screen will flick, and the 
chord will be repeated (you can release the keys now), or the machine 
will shut down cold again and the sleep LED will go steady, unblinking 
green. If the latter happens, press Ctrl-Cmd-Power and the machine will 
reboot.
7. Hold down Cmd-Option while MacOS starts up. When the machine asks you 
if you want to rebuild the desktop, click "Yes" and let it finish.
8. You will need to reset memory settings (virtual memory and disk 
cache), screen brightness, contrast, sound volume and alert sound 
selection, Appletalk status, and other settings which lurk in PRAM.

-- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer)
Home:   <http://www.zws.com/>
Resume: <http://www.zws.com/resume.html>

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Date: 13 Apr 98 21:20:20 -0400
From: "D. Scott Beach" <sbeach@front.net>
Subject: Slow connect (Windows better?)

David Roche <droche@eurekanet.com> Writes:
>And why is it that even after a web page has completely loaded, when I
>scroll through it, the browser window is VERY slow to update, in a very
>jerky manner?
>
>My machine has 48 megs of RAM, and I've devoted 7 megs of RAM
>to Internet Explorer. I've tried adding even more, but it doesn't seem
>to speed things up. I also use Ram Doubler 2, and Speed Doubler 8.

David:
I did a test a while ago. I found that for a given page (I only tested one)
it took 32 seconds to load and display in Internet Explorer 3.01, 32
seconds in Cyberdog but only 12 seconds in Netscape (I don't remember if it
was 3 or 4). I still use Cyberdog 'cause I like it best, but those numbers
speak for themselves.
My bet is your biggest performance killer is RAM Doubler. There may be
other variables like how you display graphics (faster vs. better) and how
much cache you permit.

---------------------------------------------------------
D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net
A rabid Mac dude in Toronto.
---------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:40:10 EDT
From: Bob Warner <BobWarner@aol.com>
Subject: TEMPO

TEMPO was sort of like AppleScript, KeyQuencer, OneClick and/or QuicKeys. 
Anyone know what's happened to it?

Many thanks! 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:09:41 EDT
From: Luskin <Luskin@aol.com>
Subject: Wordperfect 3.5.5...

I wrote a few weeks ago with respect to Corel Wordperfect updater 3.5e.
Through MacZone, I bought what turns out to be Wordperfect version 3.5.3,
which identifies itself as version 3.5, and MacZone thinks is version 3.5.1.
I downloaded an updater called 3.5e updater from a sumex mirror.  And found
out that it only can be applied to 3.5.5.  And that I need it for what I do.

A number of people on the list wrote me saying they had 3.5.5, and had gotten
it in early December.  If any Wordperfect users are reading this, I would like
to know WHERE and HOW and WHEN they got the later version.  MacZone insists
that it does not exist.  I appreciate the help.

Michael B. Luskin

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