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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 17 Nov 98       Volume 16 : Issue 209

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#455/16-Nov-98
      10/100 Nubus Card ?
      ADD/8.5
      ARA Personal Server/OS 8.5
      Audio and CD-R
      Finder memory errors?
      FreePPP and OS 8.5
      Frustrating 8.5 error in Finder
      Graphics card for my clone?
      Help
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #206
      lock Netscape new window location?
      Lost ...
      Netscape Communicator's mailto: -> Eudora Pro 3.1.1
      open transport
      PC Exchange SCSI Drivers
      Plotting Software needed.
      Plotting software reccomendation =?iso-8859-1?Q?needed=85?=
      Prob from .vcf files
      recommended disk maintenance utility?
      Scrap-it Pro  A great product
      Soundmaster-frivolous problem
      tricking the processor (OS installation) (A)
      Type -192 error on Launcher
      Type -192 error on launcher?
      Umax clone - Syjet problems
      Virtual Memory Bomb
      VirtualPC or RealPC?
      your posts

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:30:00 -0800
From: TidBITS Editors <editors@tidbits.com>
Subject: [*] TidBITS#455/16-Nov-98

TidBITS#455/16-Nov-98

Videotaped testimony, executive accusations, and legal wrangling: more
problems with the U.S. presidency? No, this time it's Bill Gates and
Microsoft on trial in the courtroom and in the media. In this issue Matt
Deatherage looks at the antitrust trial, and why Mac users need to pay
attention. Also, we feature a look at the MP3 format for listening to
CD-quality music from the Internet, and report on updates to Photoshop 5
and Font Reserve 2.

Topics:
    MailBITS/16-Nov-98
    Move Over MTV, Now There's MP3
    Who Do You Antitrust? Part 1

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:10:10 -0500
From: Michael Holtzman <holtzman@stjohns.edu>
Subject: 10/100 Nubus Card ?

Greetings. Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a 10/100 Nubus
ethernet card? If it exists, where could I find one?

Thanx.
Michael S. Holtzman				Information Technology
holtzman@StJohns.edu				St. John's University (NY)

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:18:09 -0500
From: "Peter J. Paul" <pjp@cheerful.com>
Subject: ADD/8.5

Does anyone know about Apple Data Detectors (and IAD) in relation to OS
8.5. It is no longer on the CD, but is it's use still recommended.
Peter J. Paul

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:57:18 -0800
From: "James S. Robertson" <jamesrob@sonic.net>
Subject: ARA Personal Server/OS 8.5

I'm trying to avoid losing my ARA Personal Server (3.0) when I update to 
OS 8.5. Any tidbits on how I should do the installation?

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:03:08 -0800
From: Bob Durst <durstb@ava.bcc.orst.edu>
Subject: Audio and CD-R

Now that I've sprung for a CD-R one of the things I would like to do with
it is move old recordings (tapes, and albums) over to CD's. I have access
to an AV-mac and enough stereo equipment to connect the two, but what sorts
of software (and additional hardware) if any do I need to get sounds from
these sources into the Mac and then to write them back out to CD's.

-Bob D.
Builder and pilot of Kinetic Sculpture vehicle "Killer Tomato"
Top ten reasons why you should build a Kinetic Sculpture Vehicle:
#11 Ensures you will never be promoted at your day job. (ok, so I can't
count-so what)

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:42:46 -0500
From: Vincent Cayenne <vin@audiophile.com>
Subject: Finder memory errors?

Lately I seem to have more than a few 'Finder Error #10' errors which
freeze up the machine and require a forced restart (CMD-OPT-PWR). I get the
feeling that it's the Finder running into memory problems. At least that
what it used to be when I had similar problems back in the day.

So I used to make a copy of the Finder, increase the memory allocation of
the non-active copy, then switch, rename and reboot so that the new,
memory-increased version was used.

Then I found Finder HeapFix, which specifically allowed me to ramp up the
Finder's heap memory.

But with OS 8 came no way that I can tell for me to specify or increase the
memory allotted to the Finder, and I don't think that the dynamic scheme is
handling the things I keep trying and adding - iType, WindowMonkey,
TypeIt4Me, MyEyes, Help2Icon, etc. Also ActionUtilities, FinderPop, EZNote,
Snapz, PopUpCD, NoDesktopCleanup, Eudora Thing et al.

I don't use them all or even necessarily load them all, but I do like
trying things out and I'm constantly looking for specific solutions for
different clients so I can't "just not use the 3rd party stuff".

Is anyone having similar problems specifically with the #10 error
condition? Or solved it?

---------
"Crumpled bits of paper filled with imperfect thoughts"
(Rutherford/Robertson)

Vincent Cayenne
<mailto:vin@audiophile.com>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:26:02 -0600
From: Ted Logan <tedlogan@busprod.com>
Subject: FreePPP and OS 8.5

Thanks for your input, Peter.  I have now installed the correct modem
driver for my USR56kv90 Sportster and that has solve all the problems with
OT/PPP.  It wasn't included with 8.1 and may not be in 8.5 (not yet
installed because of backup problems), but it's named "U.S. Robotics High
Speed."

Someone kindly sent me a list of URLs where this modem script can be found
but I've lost them.  I'm sure reposting them to Info-Mac would be a boon
for many.

Ted Logan
Logan Writing, Inc.
Cleveland, Oklahoma
tedlogan@busprod.com

At 1:39 AM -0700 on 11/10/98, Peter M. Cohen wrote:

> At 2:50 PM -0600 on 10/29/98, you sent me a message that read:
>
> >There have been reports that FreePPP 2.6.2 or FreePPP Menu 2.0.3 or both
> >don't work right with Mac OS 8.5.  Can anyone please confirm or deny?
>
> Using both right now on a 266MHz G3/OS 8.5 with no problems. The FreePPP
> control strip module does not work, but the Menu fills the bill.
>
> I have read posts here and there (sorry for the ambiguity) about certain
> features of FreePPP menu not working, but I only use it to open, close and
> peek at my connection (checking speed, etc). I read a post that claimed
> FreePPP Menu had a memory leak, causing the system to swell over time.
> Haven't had that on my machine.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>
> Peter M. Cohen
> MYCO Communications
> Scottsdale, Arizona
> Please reply to: myco@primenet.com
> Voice: 602-661-7753
> Fax: 602-661-0613
> Sales without marketing is like unleavened bread.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:43:43 -0800
From: Dieder Bylsma <bylsma@home.com>
Subject: Frustrating 8.5 error in Finder

Is anybody else getting this finder error (from MacsBug)

where the error is:

PowerPC illegal instruction at FFC10000 _RelString+0044C

and always after a click'n'drag of a file from one place to another in the
finder? This happens regularly, and the code fragment is almost always the
same with the last successful instruction being this:

   0B367468    0B367460    PPC   0958A658 SetCallBackUDNavigationPanel+061AC

I've tried a reinstall of 8.5 from scratch. I cannot duplicate this problem
on demand, but it hits me fairly regularly, at least once a week, sometimes
twice in a single session. My control panels and extensions are fairly
non-descript, fairly standard Apple extensions, but nothing that fools
around with the mac at any type of low-level such as Kaleidescope,
SuperBoomerang and company

ideas?

thanks,

Dieder
--
Dieder Bylsma       	      |
______________________________|

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:46:25 -0800 
From: Frank Ripp <Frankr@mdli.com>
Subject: Graphics card for my clone?

I have a Power Computing PowerCenter 166, and just downloaded
the Tomb Raider II demo - the graphics look very boxy and
pixelated. It's obvious I need some additional graphics
horsepower....

What type of 3D graphics accelerator card do you recommend?
What's available out there for my Power Computing model?

Any info/links will be greatly appreciated...

Frank
frankr@mdli.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:32:46 -0500
From: gene nail <gnail@tds.net>
Subject: Help

Can anyone help me with a possible conflict.  last month i upgraded to
sys OS 8.5 and love it.  however, i have been unable to get STFax 3.2.5
to run since i reinstalled it.  I emailed the company, but they have not
bothered to respond.  Does anyone know if the fax program is compatible
with OS 8.5.  I should have given up on STF years ago, but for some
reasons I can't find a long running, good faxing software.
thanks in advance for your response.
gene nail
gnail@tds.net

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:34:45 EST
From: KHartMgr@aol.com
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #206

I seek your assistance.  I have Claris Emailer 2.0v3.  Lately I reiceive 
Info-Mac with "Enclosures". I cannot open the "articles". Please advise 
what to do.  Kevin

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:45:50 -0500
From: Vincent Cayenne <vin@audiophile.com>
Subject: lock Netscape new window location?

Is there any way to 'lock' the coordinates that Netscape Navigator places
new windows at? I'd prefer each new window that I open to stack directly on
top of the last WITHOUT the slight offset down and to the right that
happens by default.

---------
"Crumpled bits of paper filled with imperfect thoughts"
(Rutherford/Robertson)

Vincent Cayenne
<mailto:vin@audiophile.com>

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:13:01 -0800
From: Bobby Herbeck <bh28@loop.com>
Subject: Lost ...

Don't know if you accept a question ... but I'll try. I downloaded
Stuffit 5.0.
Then downloaded MacChess from your site. Got a prompt when I was
coverting on my desktop ... that one of the files required Drop Stuff.
I have Drop Stuff 4.5. Should it not have opened ... or is there an
issue
between Stuffit version 5.0 and DropStuff 4.5?

Thanks ... great site.

Bobby

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:52:07 -0700
From: "Jonathan Kamien, Ph.D." <jkamien@biopsych.com>
Subject: Netscape Communicator's mailto: -> Eudora Pro 3.1.1

Does anyone know how to get "Mailto:" links in Netscape Communicator 4.5 to open a message with the mailto: address in Eudora Pro 3.1.1?

There were some utilities that tweaked Navigator 3.x to do this.  Netscape's website (http://help.netscape.com/kb/client/971014-17.html) gives the cryptic advice:

>Some e-mail programs, such as Eudora, can be
>setup to intercept mailto links. This is a function
>of a mail client and not configurable directly
>in Communicator. 

Qualcomm's Eudora Pro area also didn't give me the answer.

TIA!

Jonathan Kamien
jkamien@BioPsych.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:25:54 +0000
From: "Mann, Susan" <smann@moneymailer.com>
Subject: open transport

i am not able to stay online-my powerbook 2400 O/S8  keeps disconnecting
with this message "open transport/ppp has been disconnected". then the
computer attempts to redial...but it takes several tries to get thru. i
can only stay online for 10 minutes before it disconnects.
2 things recently happened before the problem started...my ISp switched
bandwidths and phone numbers(so i had alot of new configurations) and my
modem died(so everything had to be reset with the new modem).
also the powerbook will not go to sleep.
last month my computer crashed and i had to reinstall the system
software-i don't know if this has an effect or not.
i have spoken with both the modem co and my isp co to work it thru.
the isp seems to think i have a bug in the open transport and need to
reinstall it. i am hesitant to proceed since the last reinstall caused
me to have to reset everything.

thanks in advance for your help
sue m

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:50:27 -0500
From: Michael Blair <mjblair@total.net>
Subject: PC Exchange SCSI Drivers

Help:

With OS 7.5 through 8.1 you could set PC Exchange to load drivers for any 
drives it found turned on at startup. For example, using PC Exchange I 
could load drivers for my SyQuest 200, then when I insert a disk, it 
mounted on its own. This was the recommended procedure from SyQuest.

This feature of PC Exchange no longer seem to be available with OS8.5, 
unless I just can't find it. Anyone got any suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

Michael Blair
=======================================================================
Blair Technical Communications                      Tel: (514) 989-8713
106 - 3500 Atwater Avenue                           Fax: (514) 989-7521
Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3H 1Y5                Email: mjblair@total.net

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:32:09 +1100
From: "Melvin Wilson Jr." <melman@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: Plotting Software needed.

I have a friend who runs a company that makes signs.  Right now
their production is done on a PC and they are sick of the
unreliability and hardware problems.  I argued that while a PC is

cheaper to purchase the cost of running a Mac is definitely
lower.  They are willing to consider switching, but only if they
can find the equivalent software on a Mac.

They use a program called Sign Wizards, which is Windows only.
If they were to purchase a Mac they would need to connect it to a

600 mm plotter to cut vinyl for signage.  So any sign writing
program that is Apple compatible and would work with a Mac would
be a valid substitute.

Anybody got any suggestions?

Please respond to me as well as the list and I'll make sure to
forward all replies.

Thanks in advance.

--

____________________________________________________________
Mel Wilson Jr.                   mailto:melman@earthling.net

"Fear and Wisdom are Brothers"           --- Bajoran Proverb

"Think Different"      Sent from a Apple PowerBook 3400c/240
____________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 16:49:20 +1100
From: "Melvin Wilson Jr." <melman@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: Plotting software reccomendation =?iso-8859-1?Q?needed=85?=

I have a friend who runs a company that makes signs.  Right now
their production is done on a PC and they are sick of the
unreliability and hardware problems.  I argued that while a PC is
cheaper to purchase the cost of running a Mac is definitely
lower.  They are willing to consider switching, but only if they
can find the equivalent software on a Mac.

They use a program called Sign Wizards, which is Windows only.
If they were to purchase a Mac they would need to connect it to a
600 mm plotter to cut vinyl for signage.  So any sign writing
program that is Apple compatible and would work with a Mac would
be a valid substitute.

Anybody got any suggestions?

Please respond to me as well as the list and I'll make sure to
forward all replies.

Thanks in advance.

--

____________________________________________________________
Mel Wilson Jr.                   mailto:melman@earthling.net

"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four is
suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your
three best friends. If they are okay, then it's you."

-- Rita Mae Brown

"Think Different"      Sent from a Apple PowerBook 3400c/240
____________________________________________________________

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:20:02 -0600
From: Will Wagers <hyle@gte.net>
Subject: Prob from .vcf files


Everytime my Eudora Pro 4. x receives a .vcf attachment, my hard drive
develops a problem with that file described by Norton Utils as:

"Major error in file thread record of Catalog B-tree"

What gives ?

Will Wagers	hyle@gte.net	"Reality is the best metaphor."

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:05:13 -0500
From: Ken Laskey <kenneth.j.laskey@cpmx.saic.com>
Subject: recommended disk maintenance utility?

There have been a lot of postings lately about problems using Norton
Utilities and TechTools, but I lost my Norton CD (version 3.5.2) and need a
replacement.  What is the consensus for the most reliable disk repair
package for HFS and/or for HFS+?  How useful are things like old versions
of MacTools (4.0.2), which was personally my favorite?

I'll be on travel the week of Nov. 16, but if people want to send me their
responses, I'll be happy to tabulate and post a summary.  But please have
your info upfront and prominent because, although a long discussion may be
valuable, I'll get results out quicker (especially after a week away) if I
can minimize the reading.

Ken Laskey
kenneth.j.laskey@cpmx.saic.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:07 -0500
From: Louis Bergeron <tiwi@lino.com>
Subject: Scrap-it Pro  A great product

Hi,
I just saw another FREE upgrade to Scrap-It Pro. I have been a REGISTERED
user of this shareware product for a while. This is a great product, much
better then Apple's own scrapbook manager. You can open multiple scrapbook,
converrt older scrapbooks into Scrap-It pro (I did that with SmartScrap's
scrapbooks) and the product just perform as stated.
Louis
p.s. I am not related to the author in anyway. I am just an user.
Louis Bergeron C.P. 936 Rouyn Rouyn-Noranda Qc Canada J9X 5C8
Telephone-Phone (819) 764-3862  Telecopieur-Fax (819) 764-3758

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:55:57 +0000
From: Ezra Nathan <ezra@watchit.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Soundmaster-frivolous problem

Fellow InfoMac readers>

I've been using SoundMaster on various Macs for years, and if any control
panel has helped me feel friendly towards my machine this has been number
1. My favourite sound is a toilet flush, which I have linked to emptying
the trash bin. For some reason this sound does not work with system 8.1
(works fine with 7.5.5 and earlier), though the other sounds do. I can't
work out why. At first I thought it was that the link of the flush to the
"Empty Trash" didn't work because my trash can said 'Wastebasket' (uk
system), but this can't be so as I've seen the same link work on other (pre
8.1 sys) machines which have 'Wastebasket' instead of 'Trash'.

Help appreciated. My SoundMaster is 1.8.3b. I've tried searching for a
newer version on the net but can't find one anywhere. I think it's not
supported anymore. It was developed by Bruce Tomlin, so the 'About
SoundMaster' says.

Thanks,
> Ezra

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:45:11 -0500
From: Louis Bergeron <tiwi@lino.com>
Subject: tricking the processor (OS installation) (A)

Hi,
If 8.1 and 8.5 were designed to work on 68030, Apple would have made it
very clear, because they were blamed a lot about that. Those softwares are
progresively more PPC native, so with a 68030 there is nothing to gain.
With a 68030, 7.6.1 is the end of the road. Also, it would be incredibly
slow, because the system is much bigger and takes a lot of space. There is
also the issue of memory. My actual system is taking over 20 megs. So, on a
68030 machine limited to 36 megs, there would be some problems running
softwares like Netscape.

Louis

>I recently read on the MacAddict web site that it is possible, using
>MacsBug, to trick the installer of an OS into thinking that it is
>installing on a "qualified" machine.  The example I seem to remember had
>the individual successfully installing OS 8.5 on his Performa 475
>(although he DID have the PPC upgrade card).
>
>Does ANYONE know if this might be implemented to install OS 8.o or even
>8.1 on an '030 Mac?  If these OSs work on '040 machines, then they SHOULD
>also work on the '030s...
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mark Fiske
>Fake-8 Technologies.
><http://www.kagi.com/fake-8>

Louis Bergeron C.P. 936 Rouyn Rouyn-Noranda Qc Canada J9X 5C8
Telephone-Phone (819) 764-3862  Telecopieur-Fax (819) 764-3758

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:48:03 -0500
From: Art Werschulz <agw@dsm.fordham.edu>
Subject: Type -192 error on Launcher

Hi.

Two of my colleagues recently acquired G3 Macs, on which the system
software (MacOS 8.5) was misinstalled.  I offered to reinstall same.

All went fairly well, except that on one of these machines, Launcher
does not work.  When I double-click the Launcher icon, I get a "Type -192"
error.

Does anybody know what causes this?  Does anybody have a cure?

Thanks.

-- 
Art Werschulz (8-{)}   "Metaphors be with you."  -- bumper sticker
GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? 
Net: agw@dsm.fordham.edu <a href="http://www.dsm.fordham.edu/~agw/">WWW</a>
Phone:   Fordham U. (212) 636-6325, Columbia U. (212) 939-7061

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:22:48 -0500
From: Art Werschulz <agw@dsm.fordham.edu>
Subject: Type -192 error on launcher?

Hi.

After installing MacOS 8.5 on a G3 Mac (300 MHz desktop model), I
found that Launcher always quits with a type -192 error.  Reinstalling
Launcher didn't help.

Any suggestions about what's wrong here?  Thanks.

-- 
Art Werschulz (8-{)}   "Metaphors be with you."  -- bumper sticker
GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? 
Net: agw@dsm.fordham.edu <a href="http://www.dsm.fordham.edu/~agw/">WWW</a>
Phone:   Fordham U. (212) 636-6325, Columbia U. (212) 939-7061

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 06:40:23 EST
From: SouthernTG@aol.com
Subject: Umax clone - Syjet problems

Can anyone help with the following problem?

I have a Umax (Apus 2000 - 603e - 160) running under 7.5.5 with 54xx/64xx
update) which I use for small DTP work.  Recently for a book I was forced into
getting a cartridge drive capable of holding at least 1.5 GB and after
studying the reviews etc. I purchased a Syjet.

Unfortunately I am now on my fifth drive since mid - June.  The last two
drives have both failed in what are very similar circumstances, namely either
transferring documents from the internal IDE 1.2 GB drive to the Syjet or
comparing various folders on the hard drive with the Syjet.  By the sound the
Syjet makes it is as if the Syjet heads do not appear to be able to find the
address they are looking for.  The system then responds with an error or hangs
up, and if I am copying files I get a file write error.  The crash causes
physical damage to both drive and cartridge.  The cartridges are not
recoverable using either Syquest utilities or FWB Hard Disk Tool Kit.  The
problem initially occurred using Silverlining as the Syjet driver but also
occurs using either the new Syquest utilities or PCExchange.  PCExchnge not
only has had a similar crash but also fails to eject the cartridge.

Initially Syquest technical support UK just put this down to bad cartridges
and replaced them.  When it occurred again they changed drive and cartridges
now after a third crash they suggest I have a driver clash.  As Syquest has
ceased trading I have had to pay for the drive to be repaired and I cannot
trustthe information I am getting from the company who is now giving UK
technical support.

Umax technical support suggest that I should upgrade to a more recent OS and
or replace the IDE drive with a SCSI drive.

Can anyone offer anymore reliable assistance as I dare not reconnect the Syjet
until I have resolved the problem.

The system is currently suffering some instabilities as I am now experiencing
frequent system crashes, the most common of which is unable to shut the system
down as an unknown application has failed to quit .  Another fairly common
problem is losing the preferences file for MS Office.  This does not stop
office from running properly but does cause the previous error to appear on
shut down.  I have  also had some application freeze either whilst running or
on start-up.

Tim Southern (SouthernTG@aol.com or SouthernCE@aol.com)

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:48:57 -0500
From: "Louis J. Sapienza" <louis@annapolis.net>
Subject: Virtual Memory Bomb

> I am running 8.5 on a Power computing Power Center that has been upgraded
> with a Newer Tech 250/150 G3 Upgrade Card.
>
> When I turn off Virtual Memory I bomb at startup. If I turn VM on no
> problems. Any ideas? The memory control panels default turns VM on. Any
> ideas what is causing this. I can not seem to relate the bombing to any
> extentions or control panels that are installed. 

Louis

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 98 19:09:53 -0800
From: Paul Mullen <pmullen@gte.net>
Subject: VirtualPC or RealPC?

Connectix Virtual PC or Insignia's Real PC? That's the fifty-dollar 
question. I've found reviews of VPC, but none of RPC, and no real-world 
comparisons. I can get feature comparisons and hype from the companies 
web sites, but I'm looking for real-world info. Anybody out there have 
any experience with either, or both?

Thanks!

Paul

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Date: 15 Nov 1998 01:57:13 GMT
From: magyckone@aol.comnojunk (MagyckOne)
Subject: your posts

i have a mac performa 635cd and i can't open the documents you are posting. 
any help?  too large for simple text and bbedit or write now don't want to open
them.  do i have to do something first besides unstuff?  I know this is a lamer
question but I just can't figure it out.  Sorry to be a bother but please
either post here or respond by mail.
thanks,
bobbyo

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